Report: Cops had to restrain Saunders during seizure

Rookie wide receiver Jalen Saunders had to be physically restrained by three police officers the morning of Aug. 15 during a seizure after his car went off the road, according to documents obtained by NJ.com (NJ.com, Aug. 27)

“Subject suffered a medical event . . . and needed to be restrained for his safety,” the three Florham Park, N.J., officers wrote in the reports obtained by NJ.com

Saunders was driving to the Jets facility to join the team for trip to Cincinnati for a preseason game when his car crossed over the oncoming northbound lanes and stopped on the side of the road. The incident report obtained by NJ.com said one officer, whose name was redacted, was taken to Morristown Medical Center for evaluation for an injury sustained during the incident. He was later released.

No charges have been sought against Saunders, who has been medically cleared and is expected to play Thursday in the Jets final preseason game at Philadelphia.

Jets coach Rex Ryan told reporters Monday that Saunders had a seizure, but wasn’t more specific. An anxious Saunders told reporters doctors warned him he could have more seizures. “Anybody that loves me should be worried,” he said (Post, Aug. 25)




43 comments
Floyd Toucanet
Floyd Toucanet

You think the cops were going to let a chance to "restrain a young black man" go by without seizing the opportunity?

Simon Gribben
Simon Gribben

When I was an attendant at a state mental hospital, we had a stick wrapped in gauze to put into a seizing patience's mouth to keep them from seriously biting their tongue.  That was over 50 years ago, sounds like the procedure has changed.  I dated a woman who had seizures and refused to stop driving.  There was no pattern to her events.  Hope Saunder's was a once and done.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Ok Gangrels, lets see who jumps out on the Jets tonight and makes a case for the roster, go Jets!

mrblint
mrblint

If he was in a car having a seizure the cops porbably had to do something. Instead of whining that he was a wasted draft pick, I would prefer to hope that it was an isolated event and that he will have a good and safe career. Right now the poor kid is probably terrified. Last thing he needs is to have is ny jets media therapy.

Bent
Bent moderator

I agree with most of the comments here.  This should NEVER have been reported.  I know some beat writers are under pressure to break new news (can't comment on the NJ.com guys specifically), but we did not need to know this and it should have remained private for Saunders who has spoken to the media on the issue and divulged as much as he was prepared to.


I also second the concern for the kid's health but trust that the medical protocols would have been followed to the letter and presumably medication or dietary changes have been employed to reduce the risk of further episodes.


And, yes, anyone who's ever done a reputable first aid course knows that you leave anyone who is fitting or convulsing well alone and just do what you can to make the surrounding area as safe as possible for them.  I guess the accident happened right by Florham Park so there was police on site, but it's pretty scary that he was still in the midst of a seizure when they reached him.

williamg1
williamg1

Why not post his SS# while you're at it. 

j_spikett
j_spikett

what a start to the season. idzik's 3rd round pick is injured. surprise? no he was injured all last year also. ok his first rd cb of last year got injured but how was idzik to know that would happen? answer he was red flagged by several teams in that draft for his numerous injuries and surgeries. oh well how about patterson he will be back right? that my friend is the problem this team is so desperate that they don't even cut a substandard CB that deserts the team. oh boy you are right this could be a long season maybe the pats will have a rash of injuries? answer they have so much depth that they can trade a stater OL to add another draft pick that gives them this perennial depth they have. oh boy......

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

I guess he's lucky they didn't shoot him, the way police encounters go these days.

ramble914
ramble914

Is nothing personal any more?

levi
levi

As someone said below you are supposed to let them go during a seizure. At least thats what my buddy with epilepsy always told me. Its tough to watch though.

joemustgo
joemustgo

Best wishes to this kid but this draft is starting to look mighty thin after the first 2 picks.

Daniel Diffin
Daniel Diffin

As a medical professional, I truly believe that this is nobody's business but Jalen Saunders' and the Jets team doctors. If someone is doing drugs or gets a DUI, that's fair game. But talking about someone's medical condition is an invasion of privacy.

Jayson Love
Jayson Love

OMG you don't restrain someone during a seizure you just clear the area around them.  I wonder what circumstances and what training made them think that was a good idea

Lord Harry Latts
Lord Harry Latts

A very scary report. Both for the team and the kid....I'm worried. Best of luck to this kid....rex said "he'll ear-hole ya ".

juunit
juunit

Mm. That sounds more violent than I'd originally thought. Not a good sign for his future health.

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

“Anybody that loves me should be worried,” he said


What? If it is this serious, why are they letting him play? Doesn't seem a smart move being exposed to overly stressful situations so soon after such an incident.

Crazy Eddie
Crazy Eddie

best medical practice is to not restrain someone during a seizure. Just make sure they don't hit their head. 

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Bent Also, thank God he and no innocent people were seriously hurt by a potential car accident!

joemustgo
joemustgo

Thanks for stopping by. Come again next year.

Pete 57
Pete 57

You know, Geno looks very good, the oline is very good, several new, very good weapons on O, running game looks great, D line is ferocious, our rookie safety has been projected to be top 5 at his position, and the 2 current starting CBs both graded well in preseason. And by the way, Belicheck has a less than stellar drafting record, and Tommy boy is nearing the end.

Pat d
Pat d

Privacy doesn't exist anymore

Christopher Lewis
Christopher Lewis

Another opportunity to restrain a young black male and trump up some assault charges on a police officer that's why.

Alec Wilson
Alec Wilson

@juunit  seziures are down right scary and if you try and restrain someone, or stick ur hand in there mouth to try to keep there airway clear its not going to end pretty for you.....just in case best thing to do is to support the head perhaps with a blanket etc to avoid them smashing it, and call 999/112/911 if it is the first time for the person.

juunit
juunit

@NYCPEinGermany 

I'm guessing they don't have a specific diagnosis so they can't give a medical reason as to why he cannot play. The doctors probably recommended he doesn't play, but that's not gonna stop him from his achieving his dream. 

Neurological stuff is real tricky to pin down. It's not like with Jonathan Franklin who had a spinal issue that was easy to show proof of. 

juunit
juunit

@Alec Wilson @juunit 

999 and 112? Do those work in the US? I know one time I kept hanging up the phone over and over and then it somehow called 911 for me (I immediately hung up and the cops came by a few minutes later, I was about 7 at the time.) But 999 and 112 would be new to me. 

BenNevis
BenNevis

juunit & NYCPE—

There's not enough information to know for sure, but this seems to be something like an epileptic seizure, which a buddy of mine had when we were kids. It was serious. He was put on meds (phenobarbital, if I remember correctly), but I don't think he ever had another seizure during the many years we hung out.

And we did play a lot of ball, basketball, baseball, football, and the kind of football we played was pretty brutal: you only wore whatever equipment your parents could afford (I played with no equipment at all).

And my buddy was apparently fine.

juunit
juunit

@BenNevis 

I think you did remember correctly. I knew someone who had to give phenobarbital to their dog for a similar reason.

Although it is interesting since this specific instance wasn't actually football/contact related. 

BenNevis
BenNevis

juunit—

My buddy's seizure did appear to be contact related—a Catholic school teacher had slammed my friend's head into a wall the day before.

In other words, if my buddy's seizure is in any way typical, contact does't have to immediately precede an epileptic seizure.

HarthorneWingoStarr
HarthorneWingoStarr

@BenNevis I was also reared in a very loving Catholic Elementary School environment. I was slow to learn how to tie my shoes in first grade so the nun practically castrated me (then again, maybe that was her way of looking out for me given the disposition of the priests at the parish...if you know what I mean!).

BenNevis
BenNevis

juunit—

Livefyre erased a chunk of my previous post, which should have read:

_____

My buddy's seizure did appear to be contact related—a Catholic school teacher had slammed my friend's head into a wall the day before.

In other words, if my buddy's seizure is in any way typical, contact doesn't have to immediately precede an epileptic seizure.

I also remember reading many years ago about seizures that weren't contact related: if what I read was accurate, someone with epilepsy, who has never received the proper meds, can experience a seizure at almost any time with no apparent trigger (ie, no contact at all).

So if (and I want to emphasize the IF) what happened to Saunders was in fact an epileptic seizure, then it's possible that contact during the previous day or so may have triggered it, and it's also possible that this might have been a case of undiagnosed (and therefore previously untreated) epilepsy, and the disease itself might have triggered it.

juunit
juunit

@BenNevis 

Ah, yes. The good ol' days when teachers could violently beat their students, leading to chronic medical conditions. 

It makes sense that it's not necessarily an immediate reaction kind of thing. Head injuries are funky in that way. Like why you're not supposed to sleep the first night you get a concussion. 

As a not doctor, I won't try and guess what the case is here with Saunders. Although like with dislocating a shoulder, once it happens that first time, the flood gates might open. Definitely a worrying situation for the guy. I'd expect he's going to be used more sporadically, at least this season, than the team had originally planned for him, just to be as safe as possible.