Scouring the NFL for the Jets secondary

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

It is a hard time to acquire talent anywhere on an NFL roster but with Dee Milliner’s high ankle sprain, Dex McDougle’s season-ending injury and the cutting of Dimitri Patterson the Jets are searching for corner depth due as Darrin Walls and Antonio Allen are set to start in base sets.

In addition to these four veterans we already wrote about, here’s a high-level look at some players who might be able to provide varying degrees of help for this Jets secondary.

NFL: Cleveland Browns at Kansas City Chiefs

Can Leon McFadden help the Jets in September?

Already Added

CB Leon McFadden (Browns) — Moving on from a 2013 third rounder is the Browns loss and all upside for the Jets.  McFadden might not be ready to play right now as he came out of the Mountain West conference, and it makes for a hard jump to the NFL.  He’s had some trouble with penalties, a sign that his knowledge and technique both need improvement.  McFadden has the athleticism to play the part of an NFL corner, likely on the interior, but he needs to get better technically along with being more aggressive at the line of scrimmage.   At a bare minimum, he knows the general scheme and terminology of the Jets defense having just learned it from Pettine.  While McFadden might have been a disappointment for Cleveland, given some time with the Jets there might be potential.

Trade Potential 

CB Jonathan Joseph (Texans) — Could the Jets trade for Joseph?  Joseph has missed the entire preseason as he recuperates from surgery on his toe, but the word out of Houston is that Joseph expects to be ready for this weekend’s opener.  Joseph carries a $11.25 million cap number which would make any trade difficult, but Daily News’ Manish Mehta thinks Joseph is a player to “keep an eye on” in relation to the Jets.  If healthy, Joseph would provide an immediate starter for the Jets once Joseph is healthy and clears any medical examinations.  We would imagine that if the Jets were to trade with the Texans, a second or third day draft pick would be part of the package, as would some cap relief on the part of the Texans.  It’s a highly unlikely scenario, but if it happens it would likely need to take place on Monday.

Waived / Free Agents

CB Derek Cox (Ravens) —  After signing a four year $20 million deal to the Chargers in 2013, Cox has done little to impress.  He was among the Vikings first cuts this summer and the Ravens tried him out for about a week before sending him walking.  He’d be best served as a reserve with little upside on the Jets.

CB James Dockery (Panthers) — Dockery saw time as a backup in five appearances for the Panthers tearing his labrum, which ended his season.  The Panthers have moved on looking for someone who could offer more value.  He’d be a backup on the Jets.

CB Jamell Fleming (Jaguars) — Fleming was a 2012 third-round pick in Arizona but was pushed out last year of a good Cardinals secondary before landing with HC Gus Bradley (former DC in Seattle) in Jacksonville.  Fleming was was known as a press corner during his time in college at Oklahoma and seemed a schematic fit for Bradley’s scheme and saw action in eight games in 2013.  The Jaguars saw more upside in Demetrius McCray and Jeremy Harris and decided to move on from Fleming.  He might not be a long-term answer for the Jets, but he could come in and play in Rex’s scheme.

CB Dominique Franks (Ravens) — After playing as a core special teamer last year with the Falcons, Franks was competing this summer for a role in sub-packages for the Ravens behind Lardarius Webb and Jimmy Smith.  Franks offers nickel/dime and special teams potential for the Jets.

CB Brandon Harris (Texans) — Harris was the 60th overall pick in the 2011 draft and has struggled to find a role with the Texans as either a slot or exterior corner.  He’d be tabbed for backup work at best with the Jets.

S Robert Lester (Panthers) — A 2013 undrafted free agent, Lester appeared in 12 games as a rookie for the Panthers and graded out well in coverage , starting four games and playing 336 snaps on defense.  Lester graded out as the league’s 12th best coverage safety in Ron Rivera’s defense.  He’s a player who the Jets could use to bolster their back-end coverage while they wait for the return of Dee Milliner up front.

S Danieal Manning (Bengals) — Manning might be a replacement level talent at this point and is rumored to be coming close to a deal with the Texans, but the veteran would be a steadying force for the Jets in coverage work.  Manning is now 32, but there’s no shame in getting pushed off the Bengals roster in favor of Reggie Nelson and George Iloka.




189 comments
a57se
a57se

It is too late to address the CB position this year. This team will sink or swim with what we have.

I just hope woody sees the situation for what it is, namely, the GM's screw up.

jvsvn
jvsvn

I have reached the conclusion that while the Jets certainly want to win now, in terms of building the team, everything is really about being set up for next year. McFadden strikes me as a guy brought in to be in place when they let Wilson walk in the offseason. 

D
D

Walls is going to play better than everyone thinks.  He came on at the end of last year and knows the defense. 

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

Jet fans really need to get over this fact, REVIS IS NOT A JET AND HE IS NOT COMING BACK TO THE JETS. 


Give it a rest already. I don't know what's worse the non stop pessimistic fans whining and complaining about Revis when he's not coming back or the pessimistic Islander fans that whine and complain about Moulson over and over (who is also never coming back). 


Just get over it already. Especially if you bring it up on every single thread 


Revis is gone everyone, get over it. What we have is what we have whether you like it, love it, or hate it. Deal with it and get ready to watch some Jets football on Sunday 

buddyryan
buddyryan

If Milliner gets healthy an Pryor is the real deal, the secondary should hold up. The Defense will be fine, the question is will Geno be able to limit the turnovers

Joseph Garofola
Joseph Garofola

Quetin jammer was on the NFL'S network today he's looking for a team to sign with. He would be a upgrade over the corners the jets

Have Now.!!!

j_spikett
j_spikett

i look up mcfaddens scouting report. he is slow and also non physical. he cannot run with the fast receivers nor can he jam the big receivers at the line. no wonder cleveland released him. the question is why did we sign him?

marcus81
marcus81

Idzik has a master plan that only he knows

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@a57se Thank you once again.Its tough to say any thing construed as negative on this blog because many here see only sunny skies. The faithful die hard's can say what they want but in the end Idzik's follies will doom this team to another season of mediocrity as his fascination with drafting or signing players with extensive injuries (Milliner,McDougal & Patterson along with his total bungling of this most recent free agent signing period have placed this defense in the difficult position of trying to defend many of the elite QB's and WR's with less than elite corners.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jvsvn "McFadden strikes me as a guy brought in to be in place when they let Wilson walk in the offseason."


I don't think so.  

HarthorneWingoStarr
HarthorneWingoStarr

@jvsvn I think you are exactly right. Even if the Jets had overpaid for a cornerback in free agency or reached in the first or second round on a cornerback they did not have rated as the best player available then a lot still would have had to fallen into place for them to contend for a championship this year. As a decades old Jet fan it is frustrating to have to wait for next year but I think Idzik's strategy of significantly upgrading the overall talent and depth of the team this year in order to make a run next year is a sound one.

marcus81
marcus81

@buddyryan  Pryor should keep the middle of the field clear, can't wait for Gronk to get hit, the Pats are good at setting up block picks though

bradysucks
bradysucks

@buddyryan


My guess is that Geno will be much better now that the Jets finally woke up and cut Gates and Hill. If Geno can't be a decent QB throwing to Amaro, Decker, Chris Johnson, and Kerley he should move to Canada and play football there

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D

@Joseph Garofola savvy veteran. I wouldnt be opposed to him coming on board.

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

I'd guess they signed him because they think he's better than the guy he replaced (LeQuan Lewis).

bradysucks
bradysucks

@marcus81


Master plan revealed - hide your pennies and sleep on a pile of Woody Johnson's cash while gazing at your McDougal poster as you hold your Revis voo doo doll....



(sarcasm)

a57se
a57se

@Bent @jvsvn 

I love this Blog. 

We get these ridiculously over optimistic posts then bent says "I don't think so" and we get massive backtracking but if anyone else says BS, they get hammered.

Haha...

jvsvn
jvsvn

@Bent @jvsvn With Week 1 looming don't you think their main concern is next offseason? Ha, Ha. Obviously, the main concern is needing help right now. I should have said Mcfadden is a guy who COULD be in place should they decide to let Wilson walk.

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@HarthorneWingoStarr @jvsvn I think your thought process is spot on.The only problem is I'm not sure if replacing mediocre players with more mediocre players is actually improving the depth on this team? i would define depth is having players who can step in to replace injured or ineffective players with little to no drop off in performance. At this point in time there is not even one o-lineman I would trust to step in for a starter. The corner position is a complete disaster as Milliners high ankle sprain could take a lot longer than expected to sufficiently heal and in view of how poorly he played last season when he was thrust into the line up after missing all of the pre season who knows how well he will perform. None of the other corners has distinguished themselves thus far and in spite of drafting three WR's this year none of them are expected to contribute much offensively as one was just cut,one is out for the season injured and the other will do most of his work on special teams. I'm just not seeing this depth I keep hearing about. In theory, its a great plan. In practice, so far,not so much!

jvsvn
jvsvn

@HarthorneWingoStarr @jvsvn I think we can still get to the playoffs this year, so there is no reason to have a "wait till next year" mentality. But I think it is definitely a three year rebuilding plan that Idzik is on. It all hinges on Geno's development. If Geno develops the way they hope, then they will spend their cap space and/or draft picks on a true #1 WR,  a CB, or a Pass Rusher. Those are the money positions in the NFL. The Jets now have the money and the depth to really target those positions. (assuming this year's draft class pans out) That's why they kept all those draft picks and kept those guys on the roster for now. As for McDougle, based on Rex's and DTs comments, I'm pretty sure they were hoping that he would develop into the #2 outside corner to go in tandem with Milliner.  Now all bets are off depending on his health.

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@HarthorneWingoStarr @jvsvn McFadden as Wilsons replacement.  Perhaps, but you can find someone through the draft and IMO I think that was supposed to be Dexter McDougal.

He is a short term fix for right now, hopedfully a diamond in the rough.

Joseph Garofola
Joseph Garofola

He would be a upgrade over the corners the jets have now. For whatever reasons he isn't even mentioned.

a57se
a57se

@bradysucks 

It does seem like the deal this year was to save money...we also spent very little on UDFA's...

Bent
Bent moderator

Could be...but needs to improve a lot to even be in consideration for a roster spot on anything other than an injury-ravaged team.

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

@j_spikett then why didn't you say that???

MPTG_Frank
MPTG_Frank

@a57se @MPTG_Frank @j_spikett stop being ridiculous. The narrative never changes. This whole concept of Idzik protecting this precious 20 million of Woodrows' is, to not coin a phrase, Comical. I go back to a quote by Idzik, at the very beginning of the "Off Season", where he used the term - "Sustainable Success" Difficult concept, I know. But certainly worth an opportunity, given the approaches of the past.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@a57se @bradysucks


Idzik got outmaneuvered by other GM's in free agency. Those GM's had less resources and more experience than Idzik.....Idzik could learn a lot from Elway


Idzik did a good job with the offense and with drafting Pryor and Amaro in my view


He completely blew it with the defense and turned what should be a top 5 defense into a unit filled with holes on the back end

BDarc23
BDarc23

@a57se

FA was a disappointment for me too and i am annoyed at all the cap space but as far as the UDFA thing i expect that was due to the 12 draft picks they made.

j_spikett
j_spikett

@hitchhiker its self explanatory. when you say its a bad signing it means exactly that. the idea is to sign someone who will help solve the problem not add to it.

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

@j_spikett so who are the CBs the team should have signed??? Have you emailed John Idzik to let him know how to correct this mistake???

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Brendan @bradysucks


It is one of the worst CB situations in the NFL and it's on Idzik......The Jets had 12 draft picks and more cap space than 80% or more of NFL teams this offseason....No reason this should be happening



Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  They used their third highest draft pick on a CB. It's not Idzik's fault Dex tore his achilles. 

j_spikett
j_spikett

@bradysucks @Brendan your premise is flawed. didn't spend money? thats nonsense all the money allotted on the cap will be spent. if not this year then next year

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @bradysucks 

Hahaha...yeah drafting a guy in the third round is really addressing a position of need!

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Brendan @bradysucks


How much cap space did the Jets have and name all of the free agent CB options as we entered free agency?


We can go through the options one  at a time until we arrive at a plan where the endgame is McDougal and Patterson

bradysucks
bradysucks

@j_spikett @bradysucks @Brendan


why not play to win this year? 


GM had the resources to put a top 3  NFL defense on the field if he addressed CB.....


You play to win EVERY YEAR....


Look what Elway did when he lost Decker and Rodgers Cromartie - and look at what  Idzik did to replace Cromartie and Revis....



j_spikett
j_spikett

@bradysucks they are conceding this year and building for next year. you have to know when to hold them and when to fold them. you don't want to overpay for someone this year that you will not need next year. the problem was their draft picks. they were not good draft picks. that is a problem