The Rundown: Rave receiver rumor redux

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Last year, the Jets were blasted for not having enough offensive weapons to counterbalance their defense.  In the offseason, the Jets signed productive veterans at four skill positions, starting with re-signing TE Jeff Cumberland and then signing top free agent receiver Eric Decker and then top QB Mike Vick.  Not long after, the Jets added former Titan bellcow (who will have a big impact on the Jets offense from a playmaking and scheming standpoint) Chris Johnson.  In addition to those veterans the Jets also drafted Jace Amaro at tight end in the second round and three receivers.

USATSI_7592005_110579513_lowresSo far there might be four teams interested.  With the rumors about Andre Johnson creeping up again, would the Jets get involved?

It seems a lot words being written about it.

Paul Schwartz of the New York Post spoke with Dan Shonka of Ourlads.com about Johnson and whether or not the receiver might be shopping for a new home in the New York area.

“Age and time is catching up to Andre Johnson, but we still rated him the league’s fifth best receiver,’’ Dan Shonka, the general manager and a national scout for Ourlads’ NFL Scouting Services, told The Post. “He’s 33 years old and may not be the big-time feature receiver that he once was. However his value is a mentor to the younger receivers and a solid number two option. I can’t see the Giants bringing him in, but the Jets may be an option if the price is right. Bottom line: Can’t see the Texans trading him with their quarterback situation. Stranger things have happened, though.’’

We already know what Jets running back Chris Johnson thinks about the matter.

There’s no question in my mind that while Johnson comes with a hefty price tag from trade and salary cap perspective, he would be an immediate upgrade to the Jets.  Johnson could take what might be a middling offense (no shame in that when you consider the Jets defense!!) to one of the league’s better groups, maybe even top ten.

Adding a player like Andre Johnson helps not only the quarterback, but also creates breathing room for Eric Decker, Jeremy Kerley and the rest of the receivers.  Johnson was able to post over 100 receptions and 1,400 yards with the likes of Matt  Schaub and Case Keenum throwing him the football on what ended up being the worst team in the league.

So the big question is the cost to acquire a player like Johnson, but also what it costs the team in terms of their long-term plans.  The have the cap space, but it’s hard imagine that the Texans, who are in rebuilding mode, would part with Johnson for peanuts.  Andre Johnson wasn’t part of John Idzik’s plan in how he was going to build the team this season, which is why he drafted a total of four pass catchers and signed two more in free agency.

If there’s a model that seems to keep playing out with Idzik, it’s that they might express some interest in a player (Chris Johnson, DeSean Jackson) but ultimately will call another team’s bluff on whether they might cut the player.  They did that with Ed Reed and Chris Johnson specifically.

While there’s always room for a player like Andre Johnson on any NFL roster, it certainly impacts what the Jets long-term plans were for a player like Shaq Evans or Quincy Enunwa and potentially exposes a player they didn’t plan to come this fall.  It seems silly, but there’s a lot more to it than just the money it would take to acquire such a player.  John Idzik seems much more concerned about all the variables right now when it comes to long-term team building.




34 comments
eric88
eric88

I don't think Johnson will fetch more than a third rounder, if that. We are so far under the Cap now we migt as well use it, as other guys and options develop. For me it's a no brainer.

Mark Phelan
Mark Phelan

I hate when a team has two players with the same last names - especially both on offense.  If they do sign AJ they'll have to cut CJ to keep me happy. 

jdb4
jdb4

Let the young guys grow.


Signing Johnson is a win-now move, the Jets can afford to let the young guys develop - despite what Woody has said about wanting to Win now.

Daniel Diffin
Daniel Diffin

This is a popular topic with the fanbase, since we all like to fantasize. But I doubt Idzik has lost one moment of sleep or one drop of sweat thinking about how he could make it happen.


There's no doubt that Johnson would help the offense, but the price (both in terms of trade-bait and cap-space) will almost certainly be too rich for John Idzik's taste. 

Bent
Bent moderator

This is worth reiterating:


John McClain‏@McClain_on_NFL

By the way, Bob McNair wants Andre Johnson to finish his career as a Texan. So he will. No trade. No cut. Report or retire.


UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Idzik knows the Jets are not yet one piece away form a  SB run. He will not spend on AJ, he will continue building the old fashion way and when he feels the Jets are one piece away, he might spend big on one expensive piece to get the Jets over the top, but now is not the time. It is not the Idzik way and I agree. 


******    This opinion doesn't necessarily reflect the opinion of the Farm as a whole, just Uncle Joe.******* 

marcus81
marcus81

would not be against getting Johnson and letting the young receivers come along without being rushed, as a veteran maybe he can teach Hill how to use his athletic talent

levi
levi

Sanjay Lal would ruin him and turn him into Stephen Hill.- Bradysucks

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

@jdb4 Absolutely, We aren't in a win now situation, we are in phase 2 of rebuilding the team to become a championship caliber team, why settle to be a little better then average now, this year we make the playoffs, that should make the fans and the owner happy, next year we build on that, we add some more young talent why we continue to develop the guys we have now who have potential. Signing Johnson helps us a little in the short term but hurts us in the long term because signing him would mean cutting one of our younger guys, and the Jets will have to cut some guys now as it is, so signing Johnson would mean cutting someone else. I don't agree with that.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent

By the way, Bob McNair wants Andre Johnson to finish his career as a Texan. So he will. No trade. No cut. Report or retire.


Did he say it in Comic Sans, though?

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Bent


Thanks negative Nancy :(   (lol)


Jets need to get Andre Johnson......Idzik needs to do MORE'


Decker is NOT enough...

Zartan
Zartan

I disagree, if Genoa takes the step I project, the Jets are in for a real SB run. Dre would be a solid piece to mold a stable offense to a well balanced team.

chicagofan
chicagofan

@UncleJoesJetFarm As much as I like Johnson, have to agree with you.  Jets still not 1 player away.  Also does not fit with Idzik style.  If it was his style, we would have made a play for DJ earlier, at not cost of draft pix or players.

Matthieu Laughlington
Matthieu Laughlington

I sorta disagree with that line of thought. We are one player away from serious contention. ... now that one player just happens to be QB, but if either of these guys step up there's no reason we can't be serious contenders with the defense we have. All that does of course assume we improve on our edges, which I do believe we will.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@levi


Stephen Hill and Sanjay Lal deserve each other.......Has Lal ever had a good group of receivers? Hill......hahahah


Maybe this is their year.....but I wouldn't put ANY money on it

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@levi @UncleJoesJetFarm Chris is 30, so win lose or draw, he comes out with Millions! He has to go for it! Pac, even though he has slipped a little, is still awesome. Styles make fights and Chris just might have the style for ANOTHER upset, Arriba!!!!!

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Matthieu Laughlington We have too many questions. We have to see who pans out and who doesn't.  The team is young and has many unknowns.That is why I like Idzik, he is methodical and doesn't bull rush into anything. This season, we will get our answers, especially with the biggest piece.... Geno! We are a ways off from one piece to put us over the top. As a matter of fact, I have never seen so many questions, but on the bright side, we have some young talent who could surprise, but we will have to see. You cant be one piece away with all those unknowns, and when you are not sure on the biggest piece, the QB!  

levi
levi

@bradysucks  haha all in good fun BS. I actually pretty much agree with you about Lal. but its so hard to tell with such poor QB play if the WRs are progressing or not.

Matthieu Laughlington
Matthieu Laughlington

I dunno, I mean tell that to SF and Seattle, they had a few question marks amongst their ranks too. By the time you're one piece away you're usually old and back on the down swing. Besides if we don't get them the Pats might and then we can really pack it in.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@levi @bradysucks


I wouldn't mind being wrong about Hill or Lal.......but for now they both are the smelly kids at school


(lol)

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent

And allow me to pre-respond to your followup questions.


-Yes, the entire font is just nothing but silhouettes of submachine guns, assault rifles, pistols.

-You know what is being said because "guns" is one of Texas's official state languages.

-No, there's no Rugers.  This is Texas, not France.

-Ironically, it is not technically possible to type any of those words in the state of Texas.  Those letters in that order just don't exist.  I know, i know, it's a metaphysical riddle that is as yet unsolved.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Matthieu Laughlington


I see that Joeyboy has sucked you into the wormhole.....


In Joeyboy's mind Sanchez was an elite QB who needed "pieces".....


Now he wants to pass on Andre Johnson.....lol