The Rundown: Reading the tea leaves on the one-year extension

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

We mentioned that the Jets extension of Rex Ryan might hinge on who is sitting in the defensive coordinator spot. Not long after, Ian Rapoport (who has been driving this story) put up these three tweets about Rex and his new deal.

Rex might have wished for a longer deal, but the one-year extension is a clear indication to me that Rex wasn’t willing to bend to Idzik and allow his GM to replace his defensive coordinator.

I can understand why Idzik would want someone he’s more familiar with in the DC chair, with a head coach the front office has agreed to keep on for 2014 but might have some longer-term uncertainty. Idzik could be over-reaching.  Allowing a head coach to choose his own coordinators and coaches seems reasonable.

Idzik could have made his play, but after agreeing to a one-year extension Rex appreas to be betting on himself and his players in 2014. Even so, we’re sure that John Idzik will be scrutinizing the play of Dennis Thurman’s defense in 2014.




54 comments
__fense
__fense

These conspiracy theories are ridiculous. It all hinges on an assumption that Idzik hates Rex and is trying to fire him, but isn't for some reason. 

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

For most of the year these same jerks were trumpeting Rex was gone, Idzik wanted his own guys  Then they hire him bac nd tey start'Idzik wants to hire assts "  Then they extend Rex through 7 yeasr making him other than WEEB the longest tenured coach the Jets have ever had and also giving the assistants who may have gotten offers from other teams more assurity of there positions, they say Rex is "resigned" ???? In all likely hood Rex is Ecstatic in having the job he "covets" through 2015.  Stop posting these ridiculous commentators trying to get attention.

bklyndude
bklyndude

The only thing that fans should be concerned about is whether or not Geno Smith can be the guy or not.

Having a good QB is probably the single most important thing a GM has to get right.

All coaches are year to year if things go bad.

neau1
neau1

Rex is not the only one on the hot seat, although he has been given a one year extension. Idzik had better know his talent and not only how to balance the books. Remember he brought in his own guys who he's relying on. 

Rex is best when under pressure, the first 2 years he made predictions and they almost came through, 2 years following he seemed less inclined to do the same. 

This year under the gun and most football so called experts thought the Jets wouldn't even win 4 games.

Rex had this team play beyond their talent level.

So for Rex only to be given a one year extension, to me is like adding fuel to the fire of Rex.

Rex excels under pressure, his players excel under their coach, and if loyalty is any indication of the passion these professionals have for Rex, than expect many more players around the league to want to play for this man.

If any of the players see the video of Rex being mobbed by his players and carrying on like a bunch of H.S. football players, you can bet your life "players" are going to want to come here and play for this team.

Rex should he get the Jets next year into the playoffs and beyond, will be calling the shots future, not John idzik.

Idzik had better make the right moves both in FA and in the 2014 draft, because this team is not a defensive player away from being a contender, but on the offensive side of the ball.

Idzik is just as much at risk as Rex, Rex could be fired, but the next day he would have a job, Idzik could never if he fails with the Jets find another GM gig, but bean counters they can use.

idothis2
idothis2

the pessimist in me says that Idzik wanted Rex's potential replacement on staff now for an easier transition.

a57se
a57se

Looks like Rex is making the best of the situation though why would he accept a one year extension? Seems to me if he really thinks the team will win in 2014, he would turn down the one year extension and play out his current contract. That would give him all the leverage next season.

Mike DeRosa
Mike DeRosa

Uhh....the defense was the best it was in how many years? Why would they want to move Thurman? Politics makes me sick.

marshrandy
marshrandy

@__fense he's had two opportunities to fire Rex and he hasn't done it. Don't see a conspiracy 

maynardfan
maynardfan

@__fense If Idzik didn't like his coach...he could get out now for a 1-year payoff.  Then he'd look for someone who has current experience, has won playoff games and beaten Tom Brady, brings elite coaching to at least one side of the ball and motivates players to play better than their skill level...oh wait!  

a57se
a57se

@__fense 

I don't see anything in these reports that say Idzik hates Rex. That is one way to interpret them but certainly not the only way.


a57se
a57se

@Bernard Mclaughlin 

Ian Rappaport wasn't trumpeting any of the things you mention. i think you are confusing him with the Jets beat reporters like Myers. Mehta and the Cimidiot.

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

@a57se if he wins next year he still has the same leverage, if he doesn't he still has another year to get it back.  stop this "half empty gtlass ' nonsense, rex is our coach for another two years!

a57se
a57se

@Mike DeRosa 

None of this is true, just ask the relentlessly optimistic on this blog.

Rex and Idzik love each other as well as Woody and there are no issues they aren't in agreement on! We're one big, happy jets family!

The pointer is up and everything is coming up roses!

a57se
a57se

@maynardfan@__fense 

If it was that simple, you'd be correct but he also has to deal with Woody.

If Woody is clearly in Rex' camp then it would not be possible for Idzik to just fire him. Therefore he might try (SPECULATION ALERT!) some subterfuge like bringing in his own guys while limiting Rex' authority. The wedge would be a long term extension keeping the owner happy and while strengthening Idziks' position and giving him an ear or two in all the meetings, etc.

That is one line of thinking but there are many others as well......right now NONE of us knows what the motivations are.

__fense
__fense

@maynardfan @__fense That's the thing, though. If he wants to fire Rex, he can. All of the reasons why it would be a mistake aren't reasons that he can't fire him, it's the reasons that he doesn't want to. So to think that he's trying to force  a new head coach in under Rex as a sleeper cell to make it easier to fire him next year is ridiculous. If he wants Rex gone, it would have happened already. 

idothis2
idothis2

@a57se@idothis2the optimist in me says that Rex is still here and has a chance to show results by making the playoffs next year in order to secure a long term deal. I see nothing wrong with the 1 year ext. I just think Rex should be allowed to sink or swim with his own staff

BDarc23
BDarc23

How many times are you planning on posting the same comment? What are you going to say if DT doesn't get replaced?

EpidemikE
EpidemikE

@marshrandy @__fense @a57se Speaking of WR position. I really hope they drop Santonio this year if that is even possible. I really like David Nelson when he was on Buffalo and I think he should be someone that they hold on to.


I wonder what role Stephen Hill will be next year. LOL hopefully its a breakout season for him and he holds onto some catches.

a57se
a57se

@marshrandy

If this is the first time you've brought him up to me, then I apologize....perhaps it was another poster.

It is easy to mix people up on stuff like this.

marshrandy
marshrandy

@a57se @marshrandy this is the first time I brought it up to you, all the other arguments we've had you've just lept onto one of my comments about Tate

a57se
a57se

@marshrandy

If my opinion is not important to you, why do you keep bringing up Golden Tate to me??

 Do you think my opinion of him is gonna change because he has a good game? Would yours change if he had a bad game?

marshrandy
marshrandy

@a57se it's not. Also my name's marshrandy, I don't associate with that other guy 

a57se
a57se

@marshrandy

Stop misrepresenting me Randymarsh.......I have been very consistent with my comments on Golden Tate. 

Why is my lousy opinion so darn important to you???

marshrandy
marshrandy

@__fense @marshrandy @a57se I've been all about signing Tate and 57 seems to think he's a bum. Was just pointing out he had a nice game to finish the season. Agree I want to sign Tate, but I think James Jones should be a higher priority 

__fense
__fense

@marshrandy @a57se Does Idzik have any personal ties to Tate that you know of? I only ask because it seems like that's where you're going, it's plausible that Idzik was the one who scouted him, and I really want the Jets to sign him in FA.

a57se
a57se

@marshrandy

huh? 

I liked tate coming out of college and wanted the Jets to draft him but he is not worth no. 1 WR money nor is HE a No. 1 WR.

a57se
a57se

@joemustgo@a57se@maynardfan@__fense 

That is a reasonable interpretation of the circumstances....don't say it too loud though as it implies that not everything is sunshine and lollipops with the Jets.

joemustgo
joemustgo

@a57se @maynardfan @__fense I don't think it is subterfuge, I think it's merely succession planning, which is another hallmark of successful organizations. Idzik clearly isn't 100% sold on Rex yet or he would have given him a multi-year extension, and doesn't see Thurman or Marty as viable replacements. So, he probably just wants someone on staff who he views as future HC material.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@__fenseIn the NFL, outside of guys like Jerry Jones, Al Davis and Dan Snyder, most owners either side with their HC or their GM.  I actually credit Woody for maintaining some competition between Rex and Idzik for his ear.  Woody likes Rex and didn't blame him for the house burning down around him.  That was astute ownership, not being meddlesome.

__fense
__fense

@a57se @__fense Well, until there's some evidence of it happening, now or in the past, I don't think we're in a position to assume it's happening now.

a57se
a57se

@__fense@a57se 

I don't think either of us is in a position to answer that question.

__fense
__fense

@a57se @__fense Has he ever stopped a GM from doing anything that wasn't agreed upon before the GM was hired?

a57se
a57se

@__fense

Woody is still the owner of the team and would still have his say, he is not completely hands off as an owner.

__fense
__fense

@a57se @__fense Woody wanted a GM who knew enough about coaching talent to want Rex as their HC. I don't think it went down like the media are acting like it went down, but even if he did, all of the reports were 'one year'. If part of the job was that the new GM isn't allowed to fire the HC until after the 2013 season, then he would be able to do it now. 

a57se
a57se

@__fense

"Woody's never been a meddling owner, and without any sort of precedent or evidence, to say that he would stop the GM he hired from doing what the GM thinks is best is at best a guess "


Didn't Woody tell the GM prospects that they had to keep rex as the HC?????

You don't see that as precedent????

There were plenty of folks screaming last year about how all the good GM's wouldn't come here with that requirement.

__fense
__fense

@a57se @maynardfan @__fense The speculation starts in your post a few sentences before you announce it. Woody's never been a meddling owner, and without any sort of precedent or evidence, to say that he would stop the GM he hired from doing what the GM thinks is best is at best a guess 

a57se
a57se

@BDarc23 

Stick to football, I just posted your comment from the daily links thread, I know where you are coming from and will not engage you. Go Bait someone else.

BDarc23
BDarc23

Haha- ok. I only disagree with you right?  Everyone else here is my buddy and no one ever disagrees with me.  The difference is that when I get accused of being Sanchez's boyfriend...I laugh. You would rant about it for days.

a57se
a57se

@BDarc23 

Why don't you ask the posters you were going on with on the daily links page why there need to only have optimistic things said on this blog?

Until you become objective, I will ignore you as well.

I already know the answer:


"Brendan- Absolutely no one on this blog thinks you are a dummy.  You have been a target the last few weeks for sure by 57 and a couple of others but you are pretty much a celebrity around here."

 

__fense
__fense

@a57se @__fense This is today's Daily links thread? I haven't read it yet, but whenever I disagree with Brendan or JayGo, we're able to have a civil discussion about it without attacking people or making sarcastic remarks about it in other threads to other people. When I get a chance, I'll read it, and if I think that they are distorting what anyone has posted (especially if they are distorting what I've posted), then I'll say something.

BDarc23
BDarc23

57- Why the constant need to talk about the enternally optimistic posters on several comments on multiple threads for 2 days? Just make you point.  How many times are you going to write how other posters can't tell you what to post?  

a57se
a57se

@__fense

and have you commented to Brendan and JayGo about their comments on the daily links thread that totally distort anything anyone has posted on the Idzik-rex-Woody relationship?

Until you do that, I will just ignore you because you are just taking sides here and not being fair at all.

__fense
__fense

@a57se @__fense  "None of this is true, just ask the relentlessly optimistic on this blog.

Rex and Idzik love each other as well as Woody and there are no issues they aren't in agreement on! We're one big, happy jets family!

The pointer is up and everything is coming up roses! "


You have made this same comment multiple times this morning complaining about fans saying good things about the team that they are fans of on this fan blog. And once anyone says anything to you that isn't unwavering loyalty and devotion, you start playing the victim and telling people to ignore you. It's been going on for months, and I want to be able to enjoy this site again, so I'm not going to stay silent 

a57se
a57se

@__fense

I don't think that is true. 

I say plenty of good things about the Jets as well but you tend to ignore those comments.

If you don't like the comments I make, ignore them! I promise I will do the same to your comments if I get so offended by them and don't want to discuss them.

a57se
a57se

@BDarc23 

I have not been pushing that at all.

Brian Bassett has posted several pieces on that, not me.

From the reports, Idzik tied changing some assistant coaches to a long term extension for Rex. 

Now it is being reported that Rex is only getting a 1 year extension.....therefore, if the earlier reports were correct, then Rex took a stand for his assistant coaches and rejected the long-term extension.


If you do not believe any of these reports, that is fine by me but complain to Bassett for posting these things, not me for discussing them.

 

 

BDarc23
BDarc23

My point is that you have been pushing the Idzik is forcing the CB coaches from Seatle or Baltimore on Rex to be his DC since yesterday as evidence that all is not well in Jets Land. So now DT is staying and Idzik isn't interfering with Rex's coaching staff?

a57se
a57se

@BDarc23 

I already believe that DT won't get replaced as long as DT wants to stay here with Rex.

So what is your point?