NFL: New York Jets-Training Camp

Vick wants to play until he’s 40

Even though it’s fairly clear Geno Smith will be the Jets starting QB, veteran Michael Vick is still looking for a few more years to add to his career (Daily News, July 31).

“I want to play until I’m 40,” Vick said after practice on Thursday.

And while Smith has been taking charge, Vick is happy to take on his new role as a mentor – but that doesn’t mean he’s not still gunning for some game time as well.

“You never envision yourself being in this role [when you’re younger],” Vick said. “But as you grow older, you start to [realize] it’s inevitable. You know it’s going to happen. At the same time, I just try to keep myself in shape and keep trying to be the best that I can be, because you never know what can happen.”




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SackDance99
SackDance99

The thing is that anything is possible with Vick.  In 1999, the Raiders brought in career back up and spot starter Rich Gannon to compete with Bobby Hoying.  At 34, Gannon was nobody's idea of a long-term solution.  But, Gannon ended up having one of the best 4 year runs by an NFL QB EVER.  He made the pro bowl all 4 years and was all-pro for 2 of them.  Can Vick have a late-career surge like Gannon?  I don't know, but it's not like it's impossible.  So, if Vick falls anywhere between the Gannon and Evans spectrum (and, IMO, at 34, Vick is better than both of them at 34), he could easily play until he's 40 and could even be an MVP.

SackDance99
SackDance99

Back in the day, there was a career back up QB named Vince Evans, who played 15 years in the NFL with the Bears and Raiders and retired after he turned 40.  Vince was a good runner, an average passer (I'm being kind), but always exciting when he got into games.  Vick is exponentially better than Vince Evans ever was, but my point is that a back up that can move the offense with his arm and legs is, IMO, the perfect back up.  He can mentor a young starter and a project 3rd QB and he won't hurt you for a start or 2.

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

A back up quarterback in the NFL is the best job in sports.


-Mike Francesa

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

The Vick end game is blindingly simple.  In week 4, after starting 3-0, Matt Ryan goes down with a season ending knee injury.  Falcons, desperate for a competent starter, package a trade for the Jets.  We get Devin Hester, Desmond Trufant, and Dwight Lowery.  Trufant replaces Millner at CB.  Lowery outplays Pryor, who gets cut.  All three make the pro bowl and Cimini shoots himself.


Geno, after a stellar regular season, is set to battle Vick in the Super Bowl.  However, the day before the game, Sarah McLachlan kidnaps Vick.  She uses her rudimentary medical knowledge to physically alter him into a doberman.  She then forces him to fight while her song Angel plays in the background.


Amazing, I know, but I've seen the script for this year. 

jvsvn
jvsvn

Whatever you think about Vick, the man has been through a lot. What he says now is just a sign of maturity. He obviously understands that being a back up QB in the NFL is a very good gig. Making anywhere between $1 million and $4 million a year isn't anything to sneeze at. Why not do it for as long as you can. You also have to understand something else. Because of the off-the-field problems he's had, he has limited opportunities for endorsements and broadcasting jobs after his playing career is over. His best (and maybe only) opportunity for substantial income is as a player. That is something that he (and his agents) definitely understand. On the substance of it, he might well be able to play until he's 40. As long as he doesn't have a significant injury, he is a much better player than most of the guys that are back up QBs. Do you think Vick could beat out Kellen Clemons for the back up job in St. Louis? I think so and I don't see why that situation (or a similar one) would be different 3 or 4 years from now.

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

The way Vick has handled the media has been top notch.  While very minor compared to what happens on the field, it's still a somewhat valuable trait to have while being QB of this team in this market.  Keeps proving to be a very solid signing.    

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

What is he actully saying....that he wants to be a "bench warmer" for the next SIX years?

And he claims he came here to compete!!!?

Bent
Bent moderator

@bklyndude Stephen Hill > Josh Gordon and Mike Wallace

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

@SackDance99

Plunkett is another example of a guy that had an unexpected late career surge (so is Vinny, though sadly his surge was pretty much limited to one year).

bonozoffa
bonozoffa

"And it sells a lot of newspapers." - said by someone from Fatscessa's era.


BDarc23
BDarc23

@Lloyd Jay Reife "I know him as Alberto Jose Alburquerque. I didn't know they call him Al Alburquerque, I don't even know if they do.""

levi
levi

@Lloyd Jay Reife And usually the most popular guy on the Jets, everybody loves em and wants em to start.

mv01
mv01

@jvsvn This backup talk is a little premature.  Vick can still play and he's 10x the QB compared to Geno.  He will lead this team this year once Geno starts up his professional interception career again starting week 1

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@jvsvn 

Being a backup stinks.  You work your tail off, learn the offense, lift all the weights, run all the sprints, and sit through all the long hours of boring meets - just to have a good seat at the game.  When you were a kid, did you go in your backyard and hold a clipboard while your less talented friend played quarterback?  If that was your fantasy, then your probably the type that gets out of the shower to take a leak.

Vick, like every other guy who plays a game to fulfill a childhood fantasy, wants to be on the gameday field.  I'm sure he hates his situation.  No amount of money in the bank makes a job worthwhile if you can't stand it.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples He needs to get paid Hank. He lost a lot of money on lawyers and sitting in prison. Its easy money sitting on the bench.

jdb4
jdb4

@Bent 

Sorry Bent, but the real question fans want to know, is Stephen Hill > Alshon Jeffery?

lindro88
lindro88

The best part of that, was he couldn't just have some fun with it. Just like when he fell asleep.

jvsvn
jvsvn

@Ceifus Hornswoggle @jvsvn That's exactly right. Every athlete that has ever existed would rather be the 25 year old golden boy than the 35 year old back up. But as Vick says "it's inevitable". You say it stinks to be the back up. Let's think about it for a second. Would you rather A) work out with all your team mates in a situation where everybody treats you as an elder statesman and gives you total respect and getting paid $2 or $3 million dollars for the privilege of doing so, or B) going to workout by yourself for free. Most people (including Michael Vick) would choose A.


That is not to even mention the back up QB in the NFL very often get significant playing time. Yeah, it's better to be a starter, but you're still a professional athlete with the chance to contribute.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@levi 

Agreed and I believe the fine (not the time) was seriously an OVER kill by the Emperor !!

But what gets me is he is a walking contradiction and he doesn't have to be !!!


Brendan
Brendan

@bklyndude I can't wait for BS to come tell us it's just Milliner's suckitude that's allowing these plays to happen. 

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

@Bent @NYCPEinGermany @SackDance99 yes, but they brought him in to be Foley's backup. I don't remember a lot of chatter about Vinny starting until Foley started sucking, so while he had prior success, I don't think may expected him to have the success he did here.  

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@jvsvn @Ceifus Hornswoggle 

Dude, an NFL "workout" isn't your Jazzersize class.  No one would suffer through it unless there was money to be made.  And even then, I'm sure they wake up every morning dreading what they have to do that day.  And that's just the physical requirement.  Do you think even the most devout guy, really truly wants to be in a dark film room for 10 hours a day?  Their life stinks!  The chance to blow up a game is the only thing that keeps them going.

jvsvn
jvsvn

@Ceifus Hornswoggle @jvsvn That's like saying "Do you think an accountant wants to be in a room with other accountants, talking about accounting all day long?"  The answer is "YES". You've spent your entire life becoming an expert at something so you like being with other people who share your passion, talking about the thing you're all passionate about. That's what people do in every profession do. Why would the profession of quarterbacking be any different?

levi
levi

@Ceifus Hornswoggle  I dont know spent, these guys have worked out their entire lives its like brushing their teeth for them. Hell Im 43 and work out and run without getting paid because I like it. I know thats not an NFL workout but still...


They also get the fame of it and comradery that a lot of players have a hard time walking away from.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

I want to compete, this is NOT a competition...I want to start...I'm comfortable being a back-up!!

Up and down, he loves me, he loves me not!!

So i'm assuming, like Levi said...he needs to stick around the next SIX years for the money !! !!!

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@jvsvn @Ceifus Hornswoggle 

So, these accountants who never actually get to do any accounting, they are simply satisfied with talking to others about the topic of accounting?

Does that seem far-fetched to you?  Maybe I'm just crazy. 

jvsvn
jvsvn

@levi @Ceifus Hornswoggle That's right. Every professional athlete has been working out like a madman their entire life. It's what they do. The guys that totally dread it are the ones that don't make it. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples


And he's on a one year deal so if he has to pay his dues on the bench this year, he doesn't have a lot of choice, but it won't prevent him from getting where he wants to be in future.

williamg1
williamg1

@Hanknaples ???


A person can want to be a starting QB, while understanding that there isn't a competition. 


I'd imagine there are 32 QBs like that in this league. 


Your point is stupid, Hank (as usual). 

jvsvn
jvsvn

@Ceifus Hornswoggle @jvsvn You seemed to be confused. Would Mike Vick (and every back up) rather be the starter. Of course. But that's a side issue. The real issue is whether he'd rather be a back up QB in the NFL or be back in Virginia selling insurance. It seems obvious from what he says that he'd much rather be a back up QB in the NFL. You can't always get your dream job. Sometimes you have to settle for a job you like (and if you have that you're still lucky - particularly if the job you like pays you millions). Almost all coaches are former players. Why are they coaches? Because they love being involved with football. Marty Mohrningweg was a great college QB. Would he rather be the starting QB of the Jets right now rather than the OC? Probably but being the OC is more interesting to him (and much more lucrative) than his other choices. Mike Vick is in a different situation but it's basically the same thing.

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@jvsvn @levi @Ceifus Hornswoggle 

Jordon Gross, Alan Faneca, Kris Jenkins - all these guys lost about 100 pounds after they retired.  Do you think they were walking around with 100 pounds of fat?  No, of course not, though perhaps Jenkins.  They QUIT WORKING OUT because they only did it for their job, not because it's natural for a human being to want to squat 800 pounds.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Bent 

Why would he go some place else if he swears he is fine here as Geno's backup !!

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@williamg1 

Willie all is well and good !! He CAN stay true to his goal by being honest to himself !!

"Yes I came here to compete, my desire to start is unwavering but the team will decide that and until then I will continue to get better and be ready to help the team!!"

Not bad eh??

jvsvn
jvsvn

@Ceifus Hornswoggle @jvsvn @levi I don't totally disagree. Being a lineman in the NFL is totally brutal and I'm sure a lot of guys hate it and are totally relieved when it's over. But being the back up QB is a totally different job. You get paid up to 4 or 5 times more and you don't have to gain an extra 100 pounds and take viscous hits all day long. A lot of ex-lineman in the NFL would take that job in a nano second.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples He's literally stating he still wants to be a starter in this post. He's clearly not settling for a backup role for the rest of his career, but that's all that was available to him at this time. 


Stop being an idiot, please. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples That's essentially what he's been saying, Hank. So how is what he's saying a contradiction when he says it, but when you say it, it's "not bad." 

jvsvn
jvsvn

The Frig didn't have to quit working out because he never really started.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

When are you going to stop being a litle girl and stop insulting people ???


Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

" That's essentially what he's been saying..."

By saying that "There is NO competition!!

You keep spinning it there buddy !!

levi
levi

@jvsvn I would think a lot of those guys struggle with weight after football though. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples I will stop insulting you (I don't insult other people) when you stop being a troll. 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

Listen son, I've tried to keep our conversations OUT OF GUTTER but you seem to get your rocks off there !!

I know that  I would've been banned if I were HALF AS INSULTING as you are but!!

It is obvious by the ZERO WARNINGS YOU HAVE RECEIVED that you have preferred status over me.

But, if you continue with the INSULTS I will  MEET YOU IN THE GUTTER and see how it ends.....I'm a NYC street kid kiddo....don't you EVER forget that!!



Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples "I know that  I would've been banned if I were HALF AS INSULTING as you are but!!"


Your presence here is far more insulting than me calling you an idiot when you're being an idiot. 


"It is obvious by the ZERO WARNINGS YOU HAVE RECEIVED that you have preferred status over me."


I've received warnings in the past. 


"But, if you continue with the INSULTS I will  MEET YOU IN THE GUTTER and see how it ends.....I'm a NYC street kid kiddo....don't you EVER forget that!!"


Hank, you're not going to do anything, just stop. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples @Brendan Yes, Brendan does have preferred status over you because he doesn't spend all day baiting and trolling and if the worst thing he ever does is politely ask you to stop trolling or respond to your provocation with mild insults then that's a problem that wouldn't exist if not for your baiting and trolling.


So stop that and then we don't have a problem.


Any more will be deleted.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples You just challenged me to a street fight, please don't tell me what to do. 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan 

" .....please don't tell me what to do."

 "I will stop insulting you....... when you stop being a troll."

But it's ok that you give me ultimatums....you're delirious!!!

levi
levi

@Brendan  He's probably saying he will start name calling just like you "in the gutter." He's sometimes hard to read but thats the way I took it.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples That wasn't an ultimatum. I don't care anymore if you stop trolling, you're just embarrassing yourself. But until you stop trolling I will continue to insult you when you're trolling. 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@levi 

Levi I appreciate you arbitrating but , Brendan is old enough and smart enough (I HOPE) to know that ....thanks anyway !!!