Vladimir Ducasse agrees to deal with Vikings

Per Adam Caplan:

Ducasse reportedly had an offer from the Bengals, but opted to go to Minnesota where he’s expected to take on a backup role. The Jets were recently said to be interested in bringing Ducasse back. The former second round pick started the first four games of last season at left guard but was replaced by rookie Brian Winters in week five and relegated to backup duties thereafter.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

While we wish him well, to some degree there is a sense of relief that the Jets and Ducasse have moved on from each other.  Ducasse might be able to be a competent starter for a number of NFL teams, but it just never seemed to be able to work in New York for him.  After being drafted in the second round of the 2010 NFL Draft, expectations were high for Ducasse and he never seemed to realize his athletic potential with New York.  He has come a long way since his rookie season but seems destined to compete for backup work at this point in his career.



112 comments
eric88
eric88

Johnny Lam Jones. 2Nd pick, Round 1, track star.

Mark Phelan
Mark Phelan

Ducasse did not have it between the ears.  He was a 'one and done' blocker.  

jvsvn
jvsvn

It's definitely a problem that there's always "a sense of relief" after moving on from our high draft picks.

jaym
jaym

Bradway strikes AGAIN!!!!!

Mike Larry
Mike Larry

Now some bloggers are sad he can't protect Vick. 

nesboogie
nesboogie

Let's give Vernon Gholston another shot, he'll be a monster with our D-Line.


I'm just kidding.

johnsec125
johnsec125

here's a question: all things considered, what player drafted do you consider the best selection the jets ever made? joe klecko? wesley walker? browning nagle?

SackDance99
SackDance99

Vlad needed time to develop and that time should've been spent learning a single system and a single position.  Problem for Vlad was that the Jets had 3 different OCs, with different OL coaches and blocking systems.  And, he was tasked with learning different OL positions in these 3 different systems.  This lack of continuity stymied his development and the lockout didn't help either.  Vlad has the strength, speed and bulk to be an NFL OL.  I hope he succeeds in Minny because his development was mismanaged by the Jets.

McGeorge
McGeorge

What if ...

The Jets had Kept Matt Slauson and instead of drafting (reaching) Ducass drafted someone of value, maybe a somewhat above average safety for example. Or an average tight end.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Vlad is average at best....same with Sanchez.....same with Hill.....2 scrubs now gone and just 1 more to go.....

I'll celebrate once we are finally rid of Tannenbaum's lousy 1st & 2nd round offensive draft picks post Mangini.....Givin Rex credit for Big Mo & Coples

duke1958
duke1958

@johnsec125 guy named joe  and a guy who had his own island  worst johhny lame jones

SackDance99
SackDance99

@johnsec125 Joe Fields was selected in the 14th round in the 1975 draft.  In the era of Webster and Stephenson, he sneaked in and made All-Pro in 1982.  13 years with the Jets and he started 155 games.  That's bang for your buck!

Bytor
Bytor

@SackDance99  I know there was a bit of a language deal but maybe his Football IQ just wasn't there. Lack of continuity certainly doesn't help in that regard.

1969JAN12th
1969JAN12th

@McGeorge  Well, What if....?

The scout from the Jets who went to see Vlad at UMASS noticed the little guy named Cruz.


Victor Cruz on Vlad:
“There were like 15 to 20 scouts, mainly because of this guy; I call at least once a month just to thank him: ,” Cruz, who signed with the Giants as a free agent in 2010, said today. “He was a highly touted guy (Vlad) coming out and, because of him, we had a bunch of scouts there.”

Brendan
Brendan

@McGeorge  But Vlad was originally picked to be the RT. They already had Slauson on the roster when they took Vlad. 

upstater
upstater

@bradysucks If Sanchez were average, he'd still be our QB. And if Hill were average, we wouldn't be looking for a new WR.

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  Please spare us from a year of "when are they going to cut Hill?" comments. 

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Bytor @SackDance99He was also from a non-elite program at UMass.  Even if he had been a native English speaker and played Pop Warner football, instead of new to the sport in high school, he would've had a huge adjustment.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Hill will be replaced......unless he wakes up from his coma

I don't need to bash Hill because Idzik and Marty learned their lesson and know he is a back up

SackDance99
SackDance99

@johnsec125 @SackDance99Don't get me started.  The Jets built an OL in the late 70s that was dominant and the Jets even led the NFL in rushing with the likes of Clark Gaines, Kevin Long and Scott Dierking.  Losing Riggins set the franchise back 6-7 years.  Once Freeman was drafted, we saw what could've been...

Mark Phelan
Mark Phelan

@Brendan @johnsec125  Blair Thomas found it impossible to run forward.  Each hand off found him either going left or right....anything to avoid a head on with an NFL lineman or LB.

Bytor
Bytor

@SackDance99 @Brendan @johnsec125  For me it's Brady of this group. Munoz came around just as I was getting into fball.


Thomas was hailed as the next Emmitt so at least I get it.


Kyle "stiff and stone hands" Brady was a huge whiff. Sapp, Ty Law, Derrick Brooks are all unforgivable passes.

harold
harold

@Brendan

Blair Thomas was still better as a player than Gholston.

If you compare to who we could have had there are worst misses as SD99 states below.

Bent
Bent moderator

@SackDance99 @Bent @johnsec125 @Brendan  


Yeah, that comment was more about making a case for not Blair Thomas than saying Gholston is the guy.


Brendan makes a good point about the financials, which obviously peaked right around that time, but the Jets only ended up spending 16m on VG for three years of sometimes-competent backup play, so even that's not as bad as it could have been.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Bent @johnsec125@BrendanBut, the Jets didn't lose out on anyone special when they drafted Gholston.  I agree, he was the least talented high draft pick the Jets ever made, but it also didn't change the course of Jets history, like Lam over Munoz.  That's like taking Bowie over Jordan.

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnsec125 @Brendan  Blair was a letdown but a consensus high pick that just didn't work out.  And to compare him to Gholston who didn't really have any impact plays isn't really fair because he did contribute a couple of 100-yard games and seven touchdowns.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Bytor @SackDance99@Brendan@johnsec125I don't think younger fans get what Anthony Munoz was...the gold standard for NFL left tackles.  Just the most perfect offensive lineman that I've ever seen.  He was All-Pro 9 times in 13 years!  For Lam Jones.....

SackDance99
SackDance99

@johnsec125 @BrendanAnd, Cortez goes next; a guy that looked like a HOF'er in college...a dominant interior DL.  In today's draft analysis, no RB would go over a dominant DT.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Brendan @johnsec125IMO, Blair Thomas, Lam Jones and Kyle Brady all have Vernon beaten because of the guys the Jets could've taken.  Lam=Munoz; Thomas=Cortez Kennedy; Brady=Sapp.  That's 3 Hall of Famers, including the best offensive lineman of all time.

Brendan
Brendan

@johnsec125 John, Blair was justtttt before my time. I vaguely remember him playing, but I don't remember it well enough to give it a fair comparison to Gholston. Part of my thinking with Gholston is that it was a reactionary pick because Mangini was scared that Belichick was going to take Gholston if the Jets didn't. Belichick bluffed his protege into one of the most damaging picks in the history of the franchise. I just puked in my mouth a little bit. 

Brendan
Brendan

@MPTG_Frank  That's who I was leaning towards for best pick. I'd put Mangold in the discussion, too. He's still going, but when all is said and done I think we'll look back on Mangold's career and see at least a decade of excellent play from the C spot. I can't even imagine the grieving process I'll go through when he retires. 

MPTG_Frank
MPTG_Frank

Based on this criteria, and the 1970 restriction, I would say Joe Klecko, then

Edit: for best, not worst. :)

greggreen
greggreen

@bradysucks  I disagree the was real improvement in hills game from year 1 to year 2 and if he take the leap and learns how to use his body and frame more he should battle whatever draft pick we get for the outside spot with decker  

bradysucks
bradysucks

Hope Hill makes it.....just don't think he is durable and capable of running the entire NFL route tree. I view Hill as a one trick pony. Kerley looked just fine with Geno. It's true the QB is a huge help to a receiver and Decker isn't playing with Peyton anymore...but I bet you Decker still looks good with Geno....

greggreen
greggreen

@bradysucks  So having geno as his qb had nothing to do with his lack of production? weird 

bradysucks
bradysucks

I hope he makes it.....just don't think he will....I've been saying for 3 years I didn't think Hill, Vlad, or Sanchez were starting caliber....so this is nothing new

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks  I think they learned how fast he can recover from an injury. 


He's still too young to write off.