What did we learn? Five lessons from this past week’s OTAs

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Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Another week, another group of lessons we learned from this week’s Jets OTAs.

Not Bowled Over – Dom Cosentino hit it right on the head with his assessment of the Jets playing hooky on their last day.  Yes, these activities are “voluntary” but every player is there for their own edification and the betterment of the team.  While there’s a lot of rules about how much time players can spend on the field together, it’s not as if players haven’t been using all off-season to refine their game.  Mo and his defensive line brethren headed to Houston this winter to learn from one of the best line coaches on their own dime.  Are there downsides?  The potential to send a wrong message?  Going bowling or playing paintball isn’t just a chance to have some team bonding, I think it’s about something else.  Ryan doesn’t like taking chances with injuries, often sitting players on the day they sign a big contract or putting veterans with nagging injuries on “pitch counts.”  I have to think that Ryan’s unwillingness to see a player injured on the last day of voluntary team activities is a driving force behind why the coach took it easy on his fellas during the last day of voluntary team activities.

Mix and Match — The Jets are experimenting with the lineup during the absence of veteran right guard Willie Colon.  Ryan said that he is “not gonna write Willie off yet.” Hinting that Colon might be back in the lineup this summer.  Either way, the Jets were using this as an opportunity to give younger players time on the field with the starters.  We fully expected the Jets to move  around Brian Winters to allow another young player like Oday Aboushi to play the left spot.  “I’ve been impressed with Aboushi,” Ryan told reporters.  “A little more this year already in these camps than I was at any time last year.”  It’s a good sign of the progress and that the team might be best served playing him inside, at least early in his career.  It makes perfect sense that Ryan would talk up Aboushi at left guard; it’s the easier of the two since it’s the easier of the two thanks to to D’Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold.


Landing Spot for Landry — It will be very interesting to see how the Jets utilize safety Dawan Landry going forward with first rounder Calvin Pryor a likely starter and third year player Antonio Allen penciled in alongside Pryor.  Landry soaked up a large number of snaps last season on defense for the Jets.  Landry can act as another coach for the young safeties and might be a good situational player and spot starter.  Landry might never have been at his best in coverage and the Jets might be deep at in-the-box safeties, but his experience can’t be undervalued.

Geno SmithSmith Settling In — Teammates like what they hear from second year quarterback Geno Smith.  Smith ‘seems like he has a lot more confidence right now’ Nick Folk told NFL Network earlier this week.  Players seem to agree that Smith is more confident in his play calls and in his reads that he was a year ago.  It makes sense, Smith has been digging into the playbook for a year now.  If Geno is improved then it would only underscore the improvement was saw from him at the end of 2013.  But it will be hard to judge how much improvement there is until training camp and the preseason to get a true sense of how far the young quarterback has come.

Too Much About the Two — There’s a lot of attention being placed on who will line up opposite Eric Decker come September.  I won’t say that I’m not interested in the matter, but the simple fact is that the team’s second best wide receiver is Jeremy Kerley, end of story.  I don’t doubt that there will be a flanker who plays opposite Eric Decker.  That player might be Stephen Hill, David Nelson or Jalen Saunders, but I’m sorry, until proven otherwise I won’t call that player the team’s “WR2.”  Kerley has routinely played above his head in the last three seasons with little help and will finally have some talent to make him even more effective wherever he might line up.  Yes, Kerley does his best work in the slot, but he shouldn’t be typecast as an inside-only receiver, he’s demonstrated the ability to play outside and stay productive when required.  In addition, the Jets only three game losing streak of 2013 came during the three games that Kerley didn’t play.  Of course Kerley wasn’t the only reason that the Jets lost three straight, but his absence certainly didn’t help an offense that could barely keep afloat with him in the lineup.  Whether Kerley is the crowned “two” or not, he’s the team second best receiver as the team plans for the season and to limit his snaps for players who are not as productive as him would be unwise.




43 comments
Bent
Bent moderator

Wow that fight was amazing.  Well done, Joey's guy!


I didn't think he was going to make it through round one, let alone last the distance, LET ALONE win the damn thing.  I don't really know much about boxing, but the announcers were saying he was potentially ahead on points.  After that first round knockdown one of them said "You can jab a jabber, but you can't hook a hooker" which I thought was a good quote.


And the post-fight F-bomb was funny as hell.  


The guy who lost looked like he couldn't believe it.  Guess there will be a rematch?

reprocity
reprocity

With our RB's and the formations Marty will use, it's almost impossible to gauge how many snaps any of these WR's outside of Decker will get. Are they going to ease Amaro in? Will they go a lot of 2 TE sets? Will Amaro eat into Bohannon's reps?

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

wow joey's boy overcame a horrible 1st rd and a closed eye to win the belt...showed some great poise the next 11 rounds 

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

Nothing, because it wasn't broadcast. All I got were opinions for 2nd parties didn't get to see anything and witness for myself..lol

Bent
Bent moderator

Good luck to Joey's boy tonight in the title fight!

MoSacks MoSnacks
MoSacks MoSnacks

I have no problem with Hill being the starter opposite Decker, assuming he can stay healthy and play a little nasty, with a chip on his shoulder. He has the raw talent, but it just hasn't transferred to the NFL level, I find. I'd be completely against Kerley playing anywhere but the slot on a regular basis. As Basset referenced, he "does his best work" there. I personally think he's an elite slot receiver, especially considering what he's done since entering the league with what we've had at QB.

nesboogie
nesboogie

Expect the Jets to work out Flowers sometime within the next week.

jdb4
jdb4

"That player might be Stephen Hill, David Nelson or Jalen Saunders..."

So, I guess we aren't counting on anything from Shaq Evans?  (FTR I think the answer is Hill, as I have consistently said.)

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@jake100 i was surprised with 117-110 score from the first judge...even if he thought provodnikov won it was alot closer...i felt like chris controlled that fight for the next 11 rounds so im not sure what he and that guy from hbo were watching...your boy won so who cares 

anthonya
anthonya

@reprocity 0 fullbacks and just use a TE in the backfield would be a dream. I read a blurb somewhere about even using Enunwa as an H-Back type of player because of his monstrous blocks.

Bent
Bent moderator

@harold Cimini definitively stated that the Jets did not reach out (yet) and that he doesn't expect them to because they like the CBs they already have.


I thought the issue with Flowers was that Sutton's scheme required him to press more and he couldn't handle it.

levi
levi

@Bent Unfortunately I cant watch but I wish him well. Thats a rare opportunity he has.

jdb4
jdb4

@nesboogie 

I wouldn't.  If he couldn't cut it for Bob Sutton, what in the world would make him succeed with Rex. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

Or Ford, or Enunwa. They could end up as the flanker across from Decker as well.

#keepalleight

Bytor
Bytor

I see the rationale for keeping all eight. I don't want to lose any of these guys. But do you really really really think Enunwa has a snowballs chance to start opposite Decker?

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@jake100 i was surprised he was able to box so well with that eye for that long

juunit
juunit

@Bytor 

Not in year one. It's hard to say exactly where Enunwa will be and how quick he'll adapt. He's got a similar learning curve to Hill, coming from a triple-option. But, so people don't freak out, Enunwa was much more versatile in college than Hill was. So it's not like he has to learn what a route is from the very beginning. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Bytor Hate to say this, but the probability of none of the eight getting injured is probably about 0.4% so the decision will probably be made for us.

Bytor
Bytor

True, we almost have to count on some sort of injury. My question is more about likelihood of a guy like Enunwa, Shaq or Saunders starting opposite Decker in the absence of injuries.

Some of your comments strike me as having less confidence in Hill than me. Am I reading that fairly?

ganggrncap
ganggrncap

@jake100 


Great news Joey!  Imma have to catch the repeat, which I think is next weekend, no?

Bent
Bent moderator

@Bytor I would classify myself as open-minded about Hill.  Anything is in play from him becoming a contributor to getting bumped off the roster.

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@ganggrncap its restarting now on hbo west and looks like it will be on for a couple more days on different hbo channels but not next weekend 

harold
harold

@Bent @Bytor 


I am just happy I have not heard any new Stephen Hill injury stories.  That is the most encouraging sign for me. 


If he is healthy I don't see a scenario where he does not make the team.

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@rstysanchz @Bent When a couple of them play other positions it can happen. For example, Ford and Saunders also play on special teams...

Bent
Bent moderator

@rstysanchz @Bent That's rather unusual.  However, six is not abnormal and based on last year, the Jets might be operating on a 50+3 man roster rather than a 53 man roster (because 3 spots are earmarked for stashing their most promising youngsters).

harold
harold

@rstysanchz @Bent 


This would definitely be abnormal.  I am hoping for at least 7 WR's on this team myself.

Bytor
Bytor

He's just a bit older than Marqis Lee. He got bigger and stronger this off season. Knows the offense better. Can't see him not making it either.

I'm also a sentimental dude that wants our guy to do well so I may not see it as clearly...:)

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@Bent i know its too early to say but from scouting reports and youtube videos and lets say no wr gets injured between today and final cut day i would think enunwa will be the odd man out...he seems a little slow for wr and looks a little stiff out there almost like an undersized tightend 

Bent
Bent moderator

@rstysanchz @Bent I like Enunwa.  My friend is a Nebraska fan so I've seen a bit of him.  If he gets beaten out, I would see that as a good sign!


I'm sure the cream will rise to the top.

juunit
juunit

@Bent @rstysanchz 

I've always liked Kenny Bell more, but I think Bell is just awesome. Looks like Victor Cruz with better hands to me. He doesn't come out until next year though. 

WRs at Nebraska get overlooked because of that offense and its QB play. Enunwa belonged in the conversation with Latimer and Moncrief this year.

rstysanchz
rstysanchz

@juunit @Bent right now the only 2 definites are decker and kerley i feel like with a full offseason nelson should improve where he wont get cut either and saunders and fords special teams play should help them also  

juunit
juunit

@rstysanchz @juunit @Bent 

Honestly I'd put my money on Nelson getting the first snap on the outside opposite Decker in week 1. 

levi
levi

@juunit  Im not much of a betting man but I would take that bet.