What I Saw at Training Camp: Defense, Day Three

Leger Douzable, Muhammad Wilkerson,Quinton Coples, Damon Harrison

Day three has come and gone.  The players got into pads for the first time today and were able to get some hits in.  Here’s what we saw on the defensive side of the ball.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Concerns about Calvin

It wasn’t that far into the team’s first full-pads practice when right round draft pick Calvin Pryor came off the field due to an unfortunate collision.  Pryor jogged off under his own power with John Mellody the team’s head trainer.  After a short jog, the two rode in a cart, presumably back to the training facility,  before Pryor returned to the field in a wide brimmed hat with his pads off.  Pryor watched the remainder of practice, chatting with coaches and players.

“The new [NFL] protocol is that if we know there is a concussion, you guys will know about it immediately,” Ryan told reporters at Saturday’s press conference. “So don’t think we’re covering something up. As of right now, we don’t know if it’s a concussion or not. But it was a head injury, and obviously, when those things happen, you’re always going to side on being cautious. So that’s what we’re doing. Whether it’s a concussion or not, I’m not sure. We’ll see how that progresses.”

“He came in there and had a good collision, so it’s not like you can say he got dinged or whatever. But ‘dinged’ now means you be cautious and do what’s in the best interest of the young man. That’s where we’re at.”

Calvin has always been a hard hitter and at the very least this is a concerning turn for a player who with Dee Milliner is slated to become a leader for years to come.

If there is any silver lining to this cloud, it is that Jaiquawn Jarrett had another good day with the backups.  After an interception earlier in camp, he had a strip-fumble on tight end Chris Pantale as Pantale was running after the catch.  After being cast off by the Eagles he seems to be settling in with the Jets and is making the best of his time of his reps.

Turn on the turnovers

Rex said in his press conference on the first day of training camp that turnovers were going to be a point of emphasis for this team.

“Last year, I forget how many fumbles that they had, but we only recovered two or three of them all year,” Rex told reporters on Thursday after the first day of practice.  “That’s something we have to get better at and we talked about pursue the football like that ball is coming out. Let’s get more turnovers, we are certainly aware of that.”

The Jets are aware and they spent some time yesterday making sure that players are too.  The front seven and defensive backs all participated in turnover practice drills.  One was a tip drill (which Rex and some of the staff demonstrated) in which players batted the ball back to the man behind them in as long a continuous run as possible.  The other drill was one which players simulate coming off the edge to strip the ball out of a pass-thrower’s (a coach) hand as a he wound up his throw.  I can’t remember seeing the Jets practice these drills in year’s past but it was interesting

The statistical concept of regression toward the mean would indicate that the Jets are going to be better at recovering footballs this season, but Rex and his coaching staff aren’t just waiting for that, they are working to make it happen.

Sons of Anarchy Season Two

There’s nothing that I’ve seen that tells me the team’s defensive line will be anything but the same, if not better this year.  This is the best group on the team and the veteran leader of the group, Mo Wilkeron and his young guns still have their best football days ahead of them.  I’ve not something I’ve seen before but the cohesiveness of the group gives off the impression that they are an offensive line.  With Sheldon Richardson only getting better and Quinton Coples poised to make a leap this group should have a better season than they did a year ago.  There’s been more than one occasion in which defensive linemen have jailbroke through the offensive line and into the backfield.  Yesterday it was Coples around the edge and Wilkerson right through the middle who would have shared a sack.  The Jets face a tough schedule this year, but any team who doesn’t have a top ten offensive line in terms of pass protection is going to be in trouble.


Lightning round

  • Trevor Reilly had another standout play in which he came around the edge and reached Matt Simms as he set back up in the pocket.  Reilly was draped all over Simms and would have either sacked the quaterback or knocked the ball loose.
  • Ellis Lankster had a great pass break up going step for step with Eric Decker in sevens.  Lankster muscled up with the physical Decker and came away with a clean break up.
  • Dimitri Patterson had a great pass defense on Decker with Geno throwing the ball.  Patterson saw the route and Geno’s throw the whole way and capitalized.  Jets QBs are going to have to do a better job of disguising their desire to throw to Decker.
  • Groups were doing package installations yesterday and it was a treat to watch the defensive fronts stuffing the runners at or behind the line on more than one occasion.  TJ Barnes, Sheldon Richardson and Snacks haven’t lost a step in stuffing the run.



110 comments
Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

Oe thing for sure, the Jets beat writers are not homers, ,just morons.

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

Not thrilled when a Jet brags.  Please nobody call it confidence.  It's the biggest market in the country, this is not the mid-west where there are less media outlets, or the media doesn't sniff as hard as in Jetsville.


The best thing to come out of Dee's day was that  maybe Geno got that much better?

nesboogie
nesboogie

One can love Hill and hate Gates. LOL

williamg1
williamg1

Most fans get happy when a player make a play in practice.

And then you have the Joey's that automatically look to criticize the player on the end. 

nesboogie
nesboogie

Rontez miles just popped CJ2K

williamg1
williamg1

"Right now I would say so,(Clyde) Gates looked like he’s all the way back, Stephen Hill has had his moments and it’s just all of them, there’s no easy out out there. Whether it’s one-on-ones or team, we’ve got some legitimate receivers out there"

-Rex


Rex mentioning Clyde Gates before Stephan Hill is concerning. 

williamg1
williamg1

@tsjc68 And they mentioned he was stout against bullrushes yesterday. 


I'm thinking he's gonna pass Winters. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

 (is impressed)

tsjc68
tsjc68

I liked that kid.

Brendan
Brendan

@williamg1 "Immediately reached down to help him up." 


What a softie. 

Brendan
Brendan

Everyone should go check out Nimbley's Twitter today, some great photos of the DL working out. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

Well, that will be their high-water mark in attendance for the year...

Pete 57
Pete 57

I think it's positive that he mentioned hill and not one of the other 50 receivers.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@williamg1

I still think Gates is among the first cuts.  Even if he's improved and is "all the way back", he's still probably currently 11th out of the 12 WRs in camp (ahead of only Michael Campbell).  He's clearly behind Decker/Kerley/Nelson/Ford/Saunders (which is probably your current top 5) and Hakim, Salas, and Evans are all getting praise (and targets) more consistently than he is, I'd be surprised if he's higher than they are in esteem.


It's basically a three-way battle for the bottom two spots at the moment amongst our 12 WRs between Gates, Campbell, and Quincy Enunwa, and Enunwa gets a pass thanks to being a draft pick upside play.


I think he doesn't make it to the 75-man cutdown.  At least two of those first fifteen cuts will have to be wideouts, and Gates and Campbell are my predictions.

__fense
__fense

Could you imagine Clyde Gates being the one who turns into a star? What would we do?

tsjc68
tsjc68

@williamg1 @tsjc68

I can't wait for Aboushi to pass Winters and become a good NFL guard, so that a57se can stop bitching about the Aboushi pick (and start bitching about the Winters pick instead)

__fense
__fense

@Brian Serviss @UncleJoesJetFarm How livefyre works is you copy/paste the text of the tweet and livefyre (the comment program) goes and fetches the actual tweet and puts it right below your message. It's dumb that livefyre doesn't replace the thing you posted, but there's nothing we can do about it. It isn't Joey's fault, it's the comment system.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brian Serviss @UncleJoesJetFarm

What Dee said:

"I'm the best.  I'm going to say I'm the best because that's what I intend to be, so you're not going to hear me say anything other than I'm the best.  I want to be in the HoF, and I recognize that that means I have to keep getting better, so that's what I intend to do."


What Rich heard:

"I'm the best, and that's all I'm saying, period, end of sentence.  Please cite this as a form of insane ridicule without properly contextualizing it for the next decade, members of the NYC press corps.  Thanks.  BTW, your mom jeans rock."

tsjc68
tsjc68

@__fense @tsjc68

I like that the worst team in the league in the worst stadium in the country in the worst city in existence has the best video board in the world.


You're really, really going to be able to see, in crystal-clear HD, all the Jaguars highlights that will not ever exist this season.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Pete 57

Heh.


Yeah, by my unofficial count, we have 12 WRs on the roster and only one of them hasn't been praised at one point or another, and that's Campbell.

williamg1
williamg1

@__fense I'd disconnect from the internet, because we would be flooded with "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" from Hank and his personalities. 

hitchhiker
hitchhiker

What if Aboushi & Winters beat out Colon for the starting jobs???

Bent
Bent moderator

@hitchhiker Colon would have to fall a hell of a long way for that to happen.  There's about as much chance of that as there is of Saunders/Salas knocking Kerley off the roster.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@__fense @williamg1

"Wait, Hank is a Clyde Gates fan? No way. "

What's going on ____fense???

You must be a new member of TJB * !!

*I was the ONLY one that said he would be  an excellent signing for us and the Jets should pick him up!1

I also said he will be The Jets BREAK OUT player this year.......Right Brendan/Bent ?

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples And last year and the year before that.


I think fense was being sarcastic, Hank...

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Bent 

C'mon Bent, you're starting false rumors AGAIN!!!

 My support for Gates has been unwavering because, unlike some contrarians/waganeers here, I recognized his God given abilities and I don't change my colors on public opinion !!!

I've supported his raw ability and INCREDIBLE metrics and CONSTANTLY stressed that he will be an OUTSTANDING WR once he gets experience and HE (Gates) learns to SLOW DOWN to the speed of the play !!!

That's is all I've CONSTANTLY maintained !!!



Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Hanknaples @Bent aaaaand you couldn't be anymore wrong on Gates at this point in his career. He'll be lucky to make it past cuts 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brian Serviss @Bent 

Brian, are you related to TSJC?? You guys MUST share the same DNA because your (and His) evaluation of NFL players is HILARIOUS !!!!