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The Jets approached David Garrard about returning in 2014 (Hubbuch).
Garrard said that he appreciated the Jets bringing him back out of retirement, but told Hubbuch “It’s Geno’s team.”
Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com
I have no idea what to make of this. Does this mean that the team is already set on sticking with Geno in 2014? I just don’t think that a guy who has been out of the league for as long as Garrard has can truly offer any actual production on the field should it come to that and asking him back in 2014 already is confounding. No offense, but it would almost make more sense to see if he wants to return as an assistant coach.
Of course, just because they asked him back doesn’t mean that he would be a guaranteed player on the 53 man roster come September.
You can’t always measure a guy’s greatness just by what he does on the field. The things he has brought to us off the field are just as important. And they may not manifest themselves right now, but in the future and down the road this will be a positive thing for the New York Jets.”
–Dennis Thurman on Ed Reed’s addition to the team
Last week, Jets cornerback Dee Milliner was benched by Rex Ryan after missing a tackle of Dolphins WR Mike Wallace resulted in a touchdown, sinking the Jets deeper into their 23-3 loss.
With Milliner’s performance sending him to the bench, reporters asked defensive coordinator Dennis Thurman this week whether or not the rookie would start this week against the Raiders. Thurman told the press that “yep” Milliner would be back in the starting lineup, but as to whether or not Milliner would be back to the bench by game’s end?
“We’ll see … you take away that one play in the game, and he actually played a really good game. But you can’t take that one play away,” Thurman explained. “It affects his overall performance. And it affects the overall perception of him. But really, he was playing well. He had pass breakups, he actually was tackling pretty well and he misses that one tackle and it goes for a touchdown.”
Thurman explained to reporters that by gauging Milliner’s reaction it would be best to sit him the rest of the game.
“At that point, you’re looking for the reaction of the player,” Thurman recalled of the Milliner benching. “And there’s times where you look at him, you look in his eyes, you say, ‘You know what this is not a good look.’ And you say ‘Let’s make the move.’”
Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com
This has been a whole year of Milliner being behind the eight ball. From his pre-draft surgery impacting his offseason training schedule, to his late arrival at training camp, to his play this season the Jets ninth overall pick has had a bumpy season.
So far this season Milliner has missed three games due to injury and he’s also been benched three times. Other players like Darrin Walls and Ellis Lankster deserve the opportunity to play more snaps before the season ends, but maybe Thurman is onto something.
For some it might sound outlandish to think that Milliner ‘played a good game’ despite the benching. Milliner tallied his highest total of passes defensed (two) on the season and maybe more importantly he seemed in better position to defend passes.
While it wasn’t always successful for Milliner at least he was in place and looking at the pass more regularly for what seemed like the first time this season. Milliner’s season might be a wash, but I am going to isolate these last four games for Milliner against the rest of the season because I think we’re going to see some better improvement in December than we’ve seen all season.
Corey Griffin and Brian Bassett pick up the pieces from last week with Kristian Dyer, Jets beat writer for Metro NY. Plus – QB talk present and future, a Raiders preview, and at least the “The Forecast” remains competitive.
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- Miami Mess, Corey is Super Depressed, What Now Geno? A+ What?!
- Kristian Dyer, Jets beat writer for Metro NY, calls in (12:00)
- What’s the mood of the team?
- Why is Ed Reed playing so much?
- A+ Draft, really??
- What now at QB?
- New QB for next year?
- The Forecast (29:10)
Heading into the Week 10 bye, the Jets were riding high. Many urged the immediate re-signing of the head coach who only had one year left on his deal. At the time Idzik was pleased with his coach’s performance, but didn’t offer any guarantees to Rex’s job security.
Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com
Since then, the Jets have lost three straight and have essentially eliminated themselves from the playoff hunt, mostly due to the woes of the offense. With just four games left what will become of the Jets and their head coach?
This has been the topic of many an article over the past three days in the wake of the Jets loss to the Dolphins. While there’s a number of interesting reads on the matter, a funny thing happened on the way to the chopping block; when questioned about the lack of results from the 2013 NFL Draft class, Rex Ryan gave out A-pluses to the Jets rookies where C-pluses might still be a stretch.
Per Darryl Slater over at the Star-Ledger, here’s what Rex said when asked about his rookie class.
“If this is not an A-plus class, I don’t know what you’re looking for,” he said. “I think it’s as strong as I’ve ever seen. Will they all make it? I don’t know. But when you watch them, I see improvement. I think it’s going to be a real strength for this franchise moving forward.”
Eaaaaaaasy there Rex.
But not before another solid quote of Rex chiding the media, per Seth Walder in the Daily News. To read more of this story, click here
Santonio Holmes, Antonio Cromartie, Muhammad Wilkerson and Kellen Winslow were all limited is practice on Thursday.
Jeremy Kerley fully participated in practice.
Rex Ryan said he believes Kerley and Holmes will play against the Raiders.
Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.comThe Jets fell to the rival Dolphins last Sunday, pushing their losing streak to three games. Here, we grade the team’s offense, defense and special teams:
The Jets were only able to score three points against one of the league’s worst run defenses, not that the Jets running game has been much better of late. Even so, there was a clear way to best this Dolphins defense and limit their exposure in the passing game and yet the Jets only ran the ball five times in the first half after trying to catch the Dolphins defense off-guard with some early throws. It didn’t work and Geno was benched at the half. This marked the third time this season that the Jets removed Geno from the lineup in favor of their backup. Statistically, Simms had just about the same performance as Geno with the two combining for a passer rating of 27.1.
The receivers were underwhelming and the head-scratching activation of Santonio Holmes to use him on three plays was bizarre. Brian Winters is a detriment to the line and yet the team stubbornly keeps playing him even if that means putting the quarterback in harm’s way.
This pushmepullyou of an offense is the result of the unholy union of a coaching staff not on the same page combined with no talent at the skill position.
This grade is is the aggregated efforts of the defensive line playing well and a ragged secondary falling to pieces. To be fair to the group, the defense was on the field for 25 minutes in the first half and running out of gas in the second. The unit only tallied one sack and allowed 125 rushing yards and but it was still a good performance for the Jets front. No running back averaged more than 3.5 yards per carry and the Dolphins did their best to protect their quarterback to buy him time exploiting what seems a mortally wounded secondary. The secondary is dissolving around use. Antonio Cromartie is obviously injured, the team continues their unwise accommodation of Ed Reed, they benched their rookie corner again who is obviously drowning and they tried out a new Cover-Two look that didn’t seem to work.
Special Teams: D
Nick Folk hit his one field goal attempt and Ryan Quigley had a busy day and looked adequate, but it was the coverage and protection that really suffered for the Jets. Marcus Thigpen had two long returns, one a punt and another a kick. The punt was almost blocked twice and the coaches are reaching now when it comes to personnel.
The talent the special teams unit started this year was suspect, but it has gotten worse over the season. David Harris actually saw time on specials and the erosion of core guys to injured reserve is making the team’s special teams results slip quickly. In addition, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the man groomed for years to take over Mike Westhoff’s job, Ben Kotwica won’t be dismissed in any coaching purges that might take place this off-season.