BGA: Scouting AJ Edds

Last week, the Jets signed two of the players who were attending rookie mini-camp on a tryout basis to their 90-man roster. Jets fans might not know too much about these players, so I’ve been reviewing game footage to try and get an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. We’ll be looking at offensive tackle Markus Zusevics in a day or two, but today we focus on linebacker AJ Edds.

Edds is a 26-year-old former fourth-round pick of the Miami Dolphins and is 6’4″, 256 pounds. He suffered a torn ACL prior to his rookie season (2010) before playing a total of 11 games for the New England Patriots and Indianapolis Colts in 2011. In 2012, he tore his ACL again. He was with the Patriots again for preseason in 2013, but did not make the final roster.

After the jump, a recap of Edds’ career so far, together with a review of footage from 2011 and 2013 to assess what Edds brings to the table.

Note: Some statistics used in this article were exclusively provided by Pro Football Focus.

Who is AJ Edds?

Edds (pronounced “EEDS”) attended college at Iowa where he was a productive tackler in a strongside linebacker role alongside Pat Angerer. However, he made his name for his coverage abilities, which led to him intercepting five passes in his senior year. After he ran a 4.62 forty yard dash at the combine, he was projected as a late-round pick but the Dolphins took him in the fourth round. He was expected to contribute from the get-go in nickel packages, but unfortunately tore his ACL early on in training camp.

In preseason in 2011, Edds led the Dolphins in tackles, but was still surprisingly cut two days after making it through final cuts. The Patriots snapped him up and he played for them in a couple of early season games, but then when they placed him on the practice squad, the Colts pounced and he played for them for the rest of the year. Edds only saw action on defense in three games, but did record 13 tackles in 11 games overall. He played 58 snaps against the Patriots in week 13.

In 2012, Edds tore his ACL again, just days into training camp with the Colts. He was back with the Patriots for preseason in 2013, but played just one game and did not make the team. The Jets signed him after he performed well at the rookie mini-camp last week, which he was attending on a tryout basis.

Let’s look in detail at how he performed:

2011 Preseason

As noted, Edds led Miami in tackles with 18 and added a sack for good measure yet was still released in early September. In fact, in the first preseason game, Edds was one of the standout players. He had a sack, a couple of stops in the hole, one run stuff on the edge and a good play in coverage on third down. He did miss one tackle. In the next game, Edds gave up three third down catches, but on each of them he made a solid open field tackle to force a punt. He also downed a punt at the five yard line. Game three saw his role reduced, but he again forced a punt with a good open field tackle on third down and added a special teams tackle. In the last game, he had another special teams tackle and stuffed one run. The rest of his six tackles were downfield, but one of these was a great third down play where he covered the receiver at the marker as the quarterback rolled out and then came off his receiver to stop the quarterback just short of a first down as he tucked and ran.

2011 Regular Season

Week 2 – Patriots v Chargers: Edds played 10 snaps on defense and recorded a couple of tackles, including one where he came up and made an open field tackle after a five yard pass.

Week 8 – Colts at Titans: Edds did not play any snaps on defense, but did have a special teams penalty and a missed tackle on special teams.

Week 10 – Colts v Jaguars: Edds got into the game for three snaps, but the Jags ran three straight times and gained 27 yards. On the second of these – a 14-yard gain – Edds was blocked out of the play at the second level.

Week 12 – Colts v Panthers: Edds had a special teams tackle at the 20 early in the game, but the next time he was blocked at the point of attack and the return man went 76 yards.

Week 13 – Colts at Patriots: In this game, Edds played 58 snaps. He recorded nine tackles, although most of them were downfield gang-tackles. He was targeted once, unofficially, with Rob Gronkowski making a nine-yard catch for a first down on a well designed play where Julian Edelman was inside in the slot and ran between Edds and the other outside linebacker down the seam, with Gronkowski dropping in underneath from the outside slot to catch the ball and turn upfield. However, there were two other plays where they looked for Gronkowski and Edds was in a good position to see the ball fall incomplete. One was a holding penalty on New England anyway and the other saw the ball tipped so it fell short, although Edds would have made the third down stop even if Gronkowski had been able to make the catch with Edds on his back.

His best play against the run came late in the game where he was unblocked and came up to stuff a run in the hole. Gronkowski did score two touchdowns, although it would be harsh to blame either one on Edds. On the first one, Edds (#52) passed Gronkowski off to the safety, who as the announcer notes is out of position in two-deep coverage. On the second one, the Patriots shifted just before the snap and Brady lateraled to Gronkowski with blockers out in front of him, so Edds was never likely to get over and make a stop.

Ultimately, the Colts were pretty much overmatched, but Edds didn’t disgrace himself at all.

2013 Preseason

As noted above, Edds did make one appearance in preseason last year, in a game where he was credited with five tackles and played 18 snaps. On one play, he rushed the passer and got his hand up to deflect the pass which fell incomplete. One of his tackles saw him shed a block and stop the runner for a three yard gain, but the runner was able to fall forwards for the short yardage conversion. He gave up one catch for seven yards and there were a couple of plays where the quarterback looked his way but did not make the throw because he was in a good position.

Here’s a summary of what I learned from the footage, divided into categories:

Usage

Edds played most of his snaps at middle linebacker in 2011, although that’s because the majority were when Angerer (who ended up being his teammate in the pros as well) was out injured. The rest of his reps were as a 4-3 outside linebacker, so these roles would be most similar to an inside linebacker role in the Jets’ defense. In preseason in 2013, New England were using both formations and he was either employed as a 4-3 outside linebacker or a 3-4 inside linebacker.

In that one game where he played over 50 snaps, the Colts eventually resorted to using him to cover the deep middle. The Colts were basically playing a variation of a Tampa-Two and his first steps at the snap were always back-pedaling. In essence, he was operating as a free safety, enabling Antoine Bethea to step into the box as an extra linebacker. This is similar to what the Jets did with Jonathan Vilma and Kerry Rhodes in 2006, but while that was done for specific reasons (Vilma’s inability to handle the physicality of a 3-4 MIKE role and Rhodes’ playmaking propensity), this was more of a (failed) tactical decision by the Colts to try and slow down the Patriots’ high-powered offense.

Interestingly, at rookie mini-camp, Edds initially made an impact as a SAM linebacker. That’s the role Calvin Pace currently has, and it makes sense for Edds because he has adequate size to set the edge and can match up directly with a tight end in coverage. However, Rex Ryan suggested that he was just as impressed when they moved Edds “to the weakside” and Edds made a “seamless transition.” It’s important to note here that Ryan obviously didn’t mean the weakside edge rusher role currently occupied by Quinton Coples, but rather the weakside inside linebacker role currently occupied by Demario Davis. Edds is no edge rusher, but fits into Davis’ role quite well. Adding to the confusion, in Ryan’s defense, that role is called the WILL, whereas in some 3-4 alignments (including the one Eric Mangini brought to the Jets) the WILL is the weakside edge rusher.

Pass rush

Edds didn’t blitz very often, but did have a sack in a 2011 preseason game. This came as he was totally unblocked on a well-timed blitz up the middle. The rest of his pass rushes came up the middle and usually resulted in a quick pass. He didn’t get into the backfield, but with his bigger-than-usual size, he was able to rock his blocker back a few times.

Pursuit

At the snap of the ball, Edds is usually looking to negotiate traffic rather than aggressively pursuing the ball carrier. Most of the best plays he made saw him meet the runner in the hole, but there were a few when he chased to the outside. He definitely hustles and plays to the whistle, but is more likely to keep the run in front of him than aggressively take on a blocker. Where he was engaged with a blocker, there were a few occasions where he was unable to shed, but generally he does a good job of avoiding these situations.

Tackling

Technique-wise, Edds is a sound tackler and uses his size well. There was only a couple of plays where a runner slipped away from him, one of which was in kick coverage. However, there were a few occasions where a runner was able to drive him for a couple of extra yards. Edds is usually in the pile if there’s a gang-tackle situation, but does show an ability to bring his man down in the open field.

Coverage

As noted, this is Edds’ strong suit. In the Patriots-Colts game, he was sometimes employed in underneath zone coverage (usually David Harris’ role in Ryan’s defense) and sometimes would latch onto a slot receiver or tight end downfield or key a running back. Then, later on in that game, he was tasked with covering the deep middle. This led to him seeing a lot of coverage assignments against the likes of Wes Welker, Gronkowski and Edelman. Hardly any of the damage was done against Edds, but the Tampa-Two look was a complete failure as Tom Brady just picked the defense apart underneath. Still, the Colts (a very poor team that year) stayed competitive and only lost by seven.

Edds seemed to be in a good position more often than not and didn’t let anyone get behind him. He had a good sense of the five yard contact buffer zone and used it to his advantage. In particular, Edds made a lot of plays where he allowed the receiver to make the catch on third down but tackled them short of the marker to force a punt.

Instincts

Edds is regarded as smart and the fact that he was already able to contribute in two different positions shows that he could be a versatile player that will adjust well to different situations. He didn’t make any obvious mistakes in coverage, although I would note that there were a few times where he continued to run deep with a receiver and didn’t realize that the ball had been passed underneath, so he ran himself out of the play when he could have turned around and made a tackle. He does seem to read the game well and avoid getting caught up in traffic but perhaps could have reacted a beat sooner on some running plays, to make the tackle before the runner can build up any momentum.

Playbook

Iowa and Indianapolis don’t really have too much in common with the Jets’ system, so there may be a learning curve there. However, New England’s system – while there are still some differences – does have more common elements, so having passed through there may help the transition. As noted, he’s regarded as smart, so hopefully will pick up the system sooner rather than later.

Athleticism

On the broadcast of one of the games I watched, the announcer described Edds as “not a guy that wows you athletically, but still constantly around the football” (or words to that effect). I’d go along with that (although he wasn’t around the football that much when he was covering the deep middle because Tom Brady just kept throwing underneath). Still, Edds has impressive size and can run with a tight end or on special teams, so he’s not necessarily unathletic.

Special Teams

This is where Edds will likely have to carve himself a niche. He contributed in kick and punt coverage, playing both guard and tackle on the punt unit, so he was able to show that he could get downfield and block a punt rusher. On one play on the punt return unit he was called for a holding penalty at the line, but that was an aggressive block on one of the linemen, where he just took it too far over the edge and pulled him down. There were two plays on special teams where he was knocked down but got up to make the tackle, showing a good desire to keep playing to the whistle.

Injuries

As noted, Edds has suffered a torn ACL on two occasions. Other than that, he had a concussion in 2011. He also missed the last few games of the 2011 season after suffering an ankle injury on a dirty block by Nate Solder on the final defensive play of the Patriots-Colts game where he first played a significant role on defense.

Overall

Having not even been on the 90-man roster a week ago, Edds would appear to be the longest of long-shots to make the team and have any meaningful contributions during the season. However, it’s not entirely unheard of for a tryout player to end up on the active roster (James Ihedigbo and Matt Simms being the two most recent examples).

Edds could in theory appear on the depth chart as a back-up for either Pace or Davis and that versatility helps his chances. The fact the Jets drafted three guys who are also competing for those roles does not, although he obviously shone brightly in comparison to them last week.

If Edds can stay healthy, he could contribute as a special teamer, a backup at more than one position and could maybe even stake a claim to being a regular in certain packages that could make use of his coverage abilities. After the draft, Rex Ryan spoke about his plans for Nick Bellore and Jeremiah George. Throwing Edds into that mix could be a good hedge against either injuries or the rookie not catching on as fast as the Jets are hoping.

I’ll be back with a look at Zusevics later this week.




98 comments
Bent
Bent moderator

Edds is also capable of long snapping, according to Steiny.

Brendan
Brendan

Rex is currently answering questions on the Jets' Twitter account, fyi. 


@nyjets 

Pat d
Pat d

Dodgers-Mets on ESPN. Can't beleive this will be the 3rd game I've seen the Dodgers play on TV this year.

Well maybe not. Blacked out in LA unless you have Time Warner Cable.

Time Warner Cable only available in 30% of LA.

jenkins
jenkins

These are great. I have a question regarding the Usage section: When Jets are in 3rd and long defense-and using a nickel, which LB(s) come off-and of the LBs staying on the field  does their position designation change?


ie- if the Sam (Pace) puts his hand in the dirt and say Harris (MIKE) comes off-leaving Davis and Coples-do their designations  change  from WILL or RUSH, etc due to the alignment (in the Jets system)?



Bent
Bent moderator

@Monty  The grading is accurate.  He made fewer positive impact plays and had more negative plays this season.  However, the problem is that their system doesn't factor in how often a player is double teamed (and I'm not entirely sure how they could do that).  He simply got double teamed more this year, so even when he wasn't contributing, he was, indirectly.  I definitely felt he was better in 2013 and I'm certain the team's own grading would reflect this.


PFF's data is 100% accurate, it's just that the data can be misinterpreted, even by themselves sometimes apparently.


Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan  "Did David Harris sign his franchise tender yet? #askrex" - HankNaples.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan  "There's a certain future hall of famer you've still yet to re-sign even though most fans think it's imminent.  So when ARE you going to bring back JB Shugarts?"

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan  "Which is more vanilla, the Jets offense every preseason or this Q&A?  #AskRex"

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan  


"How DOES your defense (and the salary cap) work?  Asking for a friend #askrex" - Rich Cimini

juunit
juunit

@Pat d  

I just moved to LA and I'm getting DirecTV. I really would miss that game? It's not just on ESPN? This is all working under the assumption that I actually had my service yet, which I don't. 

williamg1
williamg1

@Pat d  I hate Time Warner more than I hate the Patriots. They are the absolute worst. Be happy you aren't stuck with them. They are the devil.

Brendan
Brendan

@Pat d  That is ridiculous. They don't have a local station like an SNY or something? 

Bent
Bent moderator

@jenkins  Harris basically never comes off.

Bent
Bent moderator

The team uses a separate depth chart behind the scenes for their sub-package that is laid out as follows:


END-TACKLE-TACKLE-END

DIME - MIKE - NICKEL

CB - SAFETY - SAFETY - CB


(Interesting, huh?)


DIME, surprisingly, represents the second LB, so would usually be Davis.

NICKEL represents the slot corner ie Wilson.

Obviously certain packages use three safeties or one LB or four corners or whatever, but this is how they lay it out for the team.


Yes, in this package, Pace would be an END (although not necessarily with his hand in the ground).  In practice I would expect Barnes to spell Pace here, if healthy.


a57se
a57se

@Bent @Monty 

Like the GGN piece says, good at accumulating stats, lousy at interpreting them.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @Brendan  Three-part question: 1.) Isn't Damon Harrison way better than Mo Wilkerson?  2.) When will you stop stupidly playing Quinton Coples out of position at linebacker and put him at defensive end where he belongs? 3.) Vernon Gholston is still out there, dude, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, PICK HIM UP!!!! #askrex" - Hankfonzie

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @Brendan  


"Now that he's retired and you never won a ring with him here, will you admit that signing Bart Scott was a huge waste of time and money and that he was a loudmouth bust?" #askrex -Rich Cimini

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @Brendan  


"How much did you pay Coughlin/Harbaugh/Arians to cover for you and pretend that going to Clemson on the most important day of the pro-personnel year wasn't a gross dereliction of duty?" #askrex - Manish Mehta

Pat d
Pat d

I have Direct TV for the NFL package. No Dodger games on Direct TV. The Dodger Chanel is only available on Time Warner

tsjc68
tsjc68

@williamg1 @Pat d  As someone stuck in a Cablevision/Optimum monopoly, I pray every night that I can someday upgrade to the abject horror that is Time Warner.

jenkins
jenkins

@Bent @jenkins  right. I remember a few years ago when Belichick went to the hurry-up offense to take advantage of Maybin (Dime I guess in above alignment) by running right at him in a game at Foxboro when Rex couldn't get Maybin off the field.


Is that the main reason Harris never comes off-his run stopping ability?

juunit
juunit

@Bent  

DIME is the LB and NICKEL is the CB? Do they switch those up just to f*** with people? 

jenkins
jenkins

@Bent  Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jenkins @Bent @Brendan @Hanknaples  They can definitely make a case for 1a and 1b but the jury's out for me on which of the two is the better player, since they have slightly different abilities.  


I guess it comes down to how much importance you attach to pass coverage (where Willis definitely has an edge IMO).  Since that's impossible to quantify, I guess that's impossible to answer.

jenkins
jenkins

@Bent @Brendan @Hanknaples  What's interesting is that as good as Willis has been-he's been the 2nd best ILB on his own team the last three years.


Bowman is an animal and the best ILB in the game, IMO.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@juunit @tsjc68 @harold @Bent @Hanknaples  


OMG - A lifetime ago, on a different blog (a Yankee one), there was a poster I used to spar with who tried to turn "chone figgins" into a phrase to say, as in "That sh!t be chone figgins, man."


Unsurprisingly, It did not stick.  I'll have to see if I can find those old pages in the archives.

Bent
Bent moderator

@tsjc68 @Bent @Hanknaples  I like how the commentator says "somebody's got to make a play to stop this drive" and then somebody turns out to be Brady.

harold
harold

@Bent @Hanknaples


Hard to score when you run a 5.2 40.  He was chased down by a nearly 300 lb TE.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @Hanknaples  DAMN YOU ALGE CRUMPLER.


Seriously, though, what a play.  And what an AWFUL throw by Brady.  I guess he thought all the extra letters in BenJarvus Green-Ellis's name meant that he also had extra-long arms to catch that buzzball he chucked 10 feet over his runningback's head.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples @Bent  Good times!


Still wish he scored though.   Nothing better than a defensive touchdown.

Bent
Bent moderator

@tsjc68 @Brendan  I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned when he intercepted Brady in the playoff game yet.  Literally the best play ever and no other player on the roster deserves any credit for the win that day, right Hank?

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @tsjc68  I love how apparently Hank's standard of "Jets fans should appreciate David Harris more" is "If you don't think David Harris is better than literally every football player who has walked the earth since Dick Butkus retired, you don't love him enough".

Brendan
Brendan

@tsjc68 "whirling dervish of bewilderment" 


Amazing. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples @Bent  


I wasn't taking the conversation there.  In fact that's the last place I'd want the conversation to go.  


Fortunately, there's no need for us to have that conversation because we've had it before.  The answer is no.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @tsjc68 @Brendan @Hanknaples  


And ironically, Harris is a better player than Laurinaitis.  


Agreed.


What a shame Hank has decided that tackle numbers should define how good a middle linebacker is.


Indeed.

Bent
Bent moderator

@tsjc68 @Brendan @Hanknaples  And ironically, Harris is a better player than Laurinaitis.  What a shame Hank has decided that tackle numbers should define how good a middle linebacker is.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan @Hanknaples  


Patrick Willis has 224 more tackles in 1 more career game. 


And James Laurinaitis has six more tackles than Harris in TWENTY-SEVEN FEWER GAMES.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Hanknaples @Brendan  Holy christ, Hank is just a whirling dervish of bewliderment here.


Hank, you came in here claiming that people didn't like/appreciate David Harris (when literally nobody said that) and then said he was better than Patrick Willis (demonstrably false) and that Willis's statistical superiority is only because he's played more (when he hasn't and when playing more is a GOOD THING, not a bad thing) and then shouted multiple times that you DIDN'T make this into a discussion what middle linebacker is better than Harris (even though you literally just said he was the best) and that people are stupid if they think Harris hasn't been as good at stopping the run as Revis was in stopping the pass (even though, again, NOBODY SAID THAT.)


Insanity.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent @Brendan @Hanknaples  


Yes, I'd go along with that.  Obviously he is a pretty good player but was involved in a bunch of bad plays, moreso than someone on a good defense would be.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent @brendan @Hanknaples  "you "Experts" have your heads up your BUTTS if you think Harris has NOT been just as Valuable i stopping the run as Revis in stopping the Pass CONSISTENTLY since 2007!!!

PERIOD END OF SENTENCE, right Bent ????"


Sure, no reason why a hilariously hyperbolic statement can't be grammatically correct.


He's been a good, consistent player, but was he the best Jets player against the run in any of those seasons?  I'm afraid not.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent @Brendan @Hanknaples  There have been a lot of recent examples of players who had poor seasons but high tackle numbers though.  And great seasons but low tackle numbers. 


If you're on a poor team getting 10 tackles a game 5-8 yards downfield, your stats will outweigh your performance.


Five of the top 10 ILB in total tackles this year graded negatively on PFF.  That includes the overall leader (PaulPoz), whose grade had him 42nd out of 55 and DeMeco Ryans who was 54th.


Especially with the NFL's notoriously inaccurate tackle stats, where if there's a pile-up they just give it to the MLB regardless of who actually made the tackle.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples That is nowhere near what you originally said. 


Harris is the only defensive player that has been on the team since 2007, so by default you are correct

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples I'm the joke because you can't add up numbers? Okay, Hank. 


Fact is, there is not a sane, objective NFL fan who would take Harris over Willis. Patrick Willis is a future HOFer, Harris isn't. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Not true, look how few tackles Bart Scott had, he sucked!

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Hanknaples @Brendan  


Patrick can NOT match Harris in BOTH ILB positions 


Harris doesn't really play both ILB positions, though.  He has always played the MIKE while Bart Scott and then Demario Davis played the JACK.


AND Patrick played in SEVEN MORE  games than Harris !!!


Which 

A.) isn't a cap in Harris's feather, it's a cap in Willis's feather (since more durability is better than less durability)

B.) doesn't account for the fact that Willis still has 225 more tackles than Harris (unless you foolishly think that David Harris would have amassed 225 additional tackles in those scant 7 extra games

C.) ignores the fact that Curtis Lofton, despite not entering the league until a full year AFTER David Harris still has more tackles than he does

D.) also ignores the fact that James Laurinaitis, despite not even entering the league until 2009, ALSO has more tackles that David Harris


Look, Hank, nobody is saying David Harris is a bum.  He's a good interior linebacker.  #16 overall since 2007 is nothing to sneeze at; it shows he's incredibly productive and useful and always finds his way to the ball.  Having David Harris is better than not having him, and most teams would love to have a physical presence like him in the middle.


But when you start making ridiculous claims as if David Harris is better than Patrick Willis, you make yourself look foolish.  If given the chance, every team in the league would trade David Harris for Patrick Willis, straight up, even one coached by Eric Mangini.


Harris is good.  He's not the best, though.  No shame in being "good but not the best".

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Hanknaples  Ironically tackle numbers are just about the WORST way to evaluate a middle linebacker anyway.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Hank, knowing that you're the loony toon dope that you are, I ran the numbers. 


David Harris: 107 regular season games, 6 playoff games. 


Patrick Willis: 106 regular season games, 8 playoff games. 


Patrick Willis has 224 more tackles in 1 more career game. Shut up. 

Bent
Bent moderator

Out of all the players that have been with the Jets since 2007 and are still on the team, Harris is definitely the best.


And, yes, consistency is a virtue and one which I appreciate him for.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples @Bent  Okay, I tried my best to agree with you without letting you embarrass yourself any further.


He's the ONLY player on defense who has been on the team since 2007 so you're asking me to choose from a list of one.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Hank, I'm speaking to your original comment that he had the most tackles since 2007, which was way off. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Hank, Unless Willis got over 220 tackles in those 7 games, yes, we can compare them. 


You are the most impressive logic vacuum I've encountered on these internets, Hank. That's an accomplishment, just not in the way you probably hope. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples  Back on topic though, you might like this Edds guy - he's another Jason Trusnik.  The two even played together in 2011 preseason.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples  Yes, Hank.  Harris has been a good Jet and is perhaps more well respected among players and coaches than the fans.


Let's not compare him to other great players around the league.

Bent
Bent moderator

@jenkins @Bent   He's also the guy with the headset.  That's a big factor.

juunit
juunit

@Bent @juunit 

It's just that, with the nickel defense typically having one extra CB compared to the dime which typically brings in two extra CBs, it seems like they named things the way they did simply because they can.

Why'd you climb the mountain Sir Hillary? 

Because it's there. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent  That's just the nomenclature they use on the subpackage depth chart.  I guess it's because if a third safety or fourth CB comes in for the dime package, it would be Davis who would yield.  That's the best way I've been able to make sense of it.