Primer: Jets 2014 Opponents

We’ll update and re-post this after Sunday’s games, but here’s a look at who the Jets will be facing in 2014:

Home Games

Denver Broncos
Oakland Raiders
Chicago Bears
Detroit Lions
Baltimore Ravens, Cleveland Browns or Pittsburgh Steelers*
New England Patriots
Miami Dolphins
Buffalo Bills

* This is complicated but check the standings afterwards and the Jets will face whichever team ends up in the same position (ie 2nd if the Jets win, 3rd if they lose but the Bills also lose or 4th if they lose but the Bills win) in their division.

Road Games

Kansas City
San Diego
Green Bay
Minnesota
Jacksonville (if the Jets don’t win on Sunday, but the Bills also don’t win), Tennessee (if the Jets win on Sunday) or Houston (if the Jets lose and the Bills win)
Buffalo
Miami
New England

UPDATED: If the Jets win on Sunday they will finish second in the division by virtue of having a better divisional record than the Dolphins. However, if they lose and the Bills also win, they will finish fourth.

The full schedule is usually released in April.




111 comments
here2win
here2win

Bent lets get the schedule contest going again, we came up with it at the last min back in April, we need to get the hype machine going early in 2014.

a57se
a57se

HEY!!!

Where is the Friday CHAT???

Jeff E. Guy
Jeff E. Guy

San Diego! That's always a great road trip.....



a57se
a57se

Charlie Campbells' latest mock has us taking Khalil Mack OLB in the first, Odell Beckham, jr. WR in the 2nd, Bishop Sankey RB in the third along with Loston Safety.


The only one I would change is Loston, I think Fiedorowicz is a better value. 6'7", 265 Lb. TE who can catch and block.

a57se
a57se

Last time we played the NFC Central division (2010) we went 2-2 against them beating the Vikings at home and beating the Lions in OT in Detroit.

We lost to GB 9-0 coming off the bye at home and got beat by Chicago in a shootout in the snow.

The home games are flipped this time around so it will be interesting to see how we fair.

Last time we played the AFC West (2011) we also went 2-2 winning both home games against KC and SD while losing in Oakland and Denver.

Again, the home games are flipped.....

I think the toughest test next year may come from our own Division as the Bills and Dolphins both seem to be headed in the right direction.

I think we are as well (though if Idzik fires Rex, that slight optimism on my part will disappear) but it will be very competitive.


SackDance99
SackDance99

Not that bad a schedule.  The NFC North is a defensive wasteland.  This season with a rookie QB, the Jets were 3-1 against the NFC South, which has 3 defenses in the top 11 per Football Outsiders.  The "best" defense in the NFC North is Detroit, at 15.  The rest are in the bottom 7.  The AFC West is tough, especially KC on the road and the Jets didn't fare very well against the AFC North, which has overall better defensive rankings than the AFC West.  Having Oakland at home, along with Denver, is a plus.  Not too many playoff teams on the schedule and not that many good defenses.

1969JAN12th
1969JAN12th

@a57se I know the conventional wisdom is we need a sure fire #1 WR; however, sometimes conventional wisdom is correct. Why do you (or even Charlie Campbell) want to go OLB in the first ? Isn't their a WR that we can get with our pick that would be a difference-maker ?

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@a57se Unless as rumour has it Jets unload the vault for Graham.

psi1
psi1

@jaygo The NYJ media (for the most part) are not journalists playing it straight. They are advocates for Jets mayhem real or if necessary…contrived. "Jaygo", you have it nailed in your post.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@jaygo It says a lot about the quality of coach Rex is that those who sought to destroy him weekly recognize that he's the best the Jets have had in a long time and you don't just toss that away.

Pat d
Pat d

I don't see us doing as well against the AFC West this time. They are all improved. Even the Raiders will be better after freeing up their dead money.

ww85
ww85

@SackDance99 If Rex is the Lions HC or DC, that will be a tough game!

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@SackDance99 I always find it a bad idea to judge what any team might be before preseason.

juunit
juunit

@SackDance99 

Defensively, maybe. But there's plenty of good offenses in there. And the 3 worst, Oakland, Minnesota and Jacksonville all figure to have new QBs. 

jdb7
jdb7

@karlhungus @a57se Pass.  LSU WR's just never seem to pan out.   Looking hard at guys like Brandin Cooks and Dri Archer.

a57se
a57se

@1969JAN12th 

In his mock draft both Watkins and Evans are gone and he doesn't think enough of Lee to have the jets take him at 14.

I like Mack and I like Lee so eother way, i would be happy. I think the WR depth in this draft is MUCH Greater then the OLB depth so getting Odell Beckham, jr. is pretty close to the same as gettting Lee to me. Beckham has also been healthier in college.


jdb7
jdb7

@johnnyl65 @a57se Brent Celek is a more likely option as Philly will probably unload him.  He has a big cap number and the Eagles are a little pressed for space next year. 

karlhungus
karlhungus

@johnnyl65@a57se There is zero chance Graham leaves New Orleans as long as Brees is the QB.... none...... They are BFF's and Graham pretty much owes his career to Brees...He flat out said he wasn't going anywhere, so you can put that dream to bed.

a57se
a57se

@johnnyl65@a57se  

Rumor? What rumor? Hallucinative Jets fans on twitter? 

Even if we do sign Graham, we still need a TE who can block. Cumby, Reuland and Winslow are all FA's next year and Sudfeld svcks at blocking.

Pat d
Pat d

Everyone is out to get the Jets is a lame story line and has nothing to do with a GM picking his own head coach.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Pat dWon't the Jets be improved, too, after freeing up cap space and with 12 picks?  The defense is real close to being dominant and the offense with the defense being so good just needs to be competent.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@johnnyl65@SackDance99True enough, but the Vikings, Bears and Packers have significant issues with their defenses.  Maybe a new DC will help, but defense can be very hard to fix when so much $$$ is tied up in the offense, which is the case with the Bears and Packers.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@juunit@SackDance99The Jets were 2-2 against top 10 offenses and with a better QB and offensive players, could've easily been 4-0 (losses on the road to NE and Carolina were close).  I'll take facing good offenses over defenses any time with this team.

1969JAN12th
1969JAN12th

@a57se @1969JAN12th Ok, I see where you are going. However, in this case I'd prefer Lee, but I see your point about Beckham.

Pat d
Pat d

I never said Rex should go. I would like to see him stay but I just doubt that will happen.

Pat d
Pat d

I know that a new GM wants to pick his own Head Coach. It was widely reported that Idzik had to agree to keep Rex as head coach for one year. In my opinion Rex was done when he had Sanchez in the 4th qtr of a preseason game and he got knocked out for the year. That was a bonehead move.

Pat d
Pat d

It sounds like you think too much. Idzik had to agree to keep Rex a year. Well its been a year.

a57se
a57se

@jdb7 I think you are very wrong about Fales arm. The Sr. Bowl will tell.

a57se
a57se

@juunit

But Simms outplayed him when he was hurt! That counts!

Pat d
Pat d

Geno was winning the QB competition? The reports I remember we're that it was even, Geno does not look ready and that Sanchez was clearly outplaying Smith. Geno is the worst QB in the NFL and the Jets WRs are one of the worst groups in the NFL. I've seen Geno miss too many open WRs and not seem capable of reading the opposing defenses to think he is the answer.

jdb7
jdb7

@a57se @Pat d Just so you know, Fales does not have a pro arm, weaker than Pennington after his 1st surgery.   Jimmy Garappolo is a nice under the radar guy to look at.  

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@Pat dYeah, I've never made it secret that I think Geno is talented and his rookie season is FAR better than it seems.  As for the rest, I gave examples of what I believe was "competition".  Mangold, Brick, Landry, Wilkerson and others weren't subjected to any "real" competition, but I think we have ideas about competition than Idzik doesn't have.  There were rookies and free agents at every position.  Whether the "competition" was real or not is subjective.  Maybe Idzik thinks that just by having a warm body in camp gunning for a vet's position is competition enough.

I also think you're being unfair about the Geno competition.  Before he hurt his ankle, Geno was winning the QB competition.  After his ankle was injured, Geno started to make mistakes and Sanchez pulled even...not ahead.  Then, Sanchez got injured.  Part of competition is being around to last until the end.  Geno was hurt, played through it, and outlasted Sanchez.  Sanchez got hurt and was lost for the season.  Like or not, that was a competition and Sanchez lost.


EDIT: And, Simms beat out GMac and that was a true competition, under any definition.

a57se
a57se

@Pat d 

You can tell what he thinks about Geno by his response. 


There was no real competition when it came to the rookies this year. 

1. Hilliard was one of the lowest rated FB's last year yet he was the only 'competition' we had for Bohanon and Hilliard got hurt so Bohanon won by default. Bohanon has been one of the worst rated FB's this season so we exchanged bums.


2. Winters was given the job as soon as the Jets shifted Colon from LG to RG and Peterman was cut, as Bent pointed out. The ONLY reason Vlad started the season at RG was because Winters was still hurt. There was NO competition here as Vlad is best suited for RG. He was just a placeholder for our draft pick.


3. Geno didn't beat out anyone for the QB position either but became the starter because his 'competition' was injured for the year. The Jets were in a quandary before Sanchez went down as they CLEARLY wanted Geno to win the 'competition' but he was doing everything he could do to lose it! 


4. Richardson was annointed a starter right after the Draft and didn't compete with ANYONE for his spot as Coples was moved to Rush OLB


5. Milliner was ordained the starter 2 days after he signed his contract despite missing the whole off-season workout due to rehab. There was NO competition with his fellow CB's either.


You can say whatever you want and believe whatever meme you choose, THESE are the FACTS!


SackDance99
SackDance99

@Pat dIf the rest of the offensive system isn't built out, it won't matter who the QB is.  Like I said, if Geno wins on Sunday, I think many of us will reassess his rookie season and view it in a much more positive light.

Pat d
Pat d

More like 1st round. Thinking Geno is the answer is a bigger risk than drafting a QB in the 1st.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@SackDance99There was camp competition and that's what I'm talking about.  IMO, the only player coming out of camp who clearly didn't deserve to start was Milliner, mostly because he wasn't ready.  He came to camp late, was injured and had very little camp time.  Maybe Winters shouldn't have permanently replaced Vlad, but Vlad did come out of camp with the job.  And, Big Snacks beat out Ellis, while Allen beat out Bush and Jarrett.  Winslow beat out Cumby.  Douzable won a spot; Folk withstood a good challenge and I'm sure that I'm missing some others.  Point is there was "competition" and I'm pretty certain that what constitutes "competition" as to fans and Idzik are different.

a57se
a57se

@Pat d 

I am on board with that.....I'd like to see David Fales in a Jet uniform.

Pat d
Pat d

The Jets need to draft a QB.

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99 

I know what Idzik's mantra has been, I just haven't seen that competition this year so excuse me if I doubt competition has much to do with it.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@SackDance99There aren't as many open spots to plug rookies into and Idzik's mantra is "competition", so in theory the rookies will have holdovers and/or vets to compete against.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Pat dI don't want to get into a Geno debate.  Let's see how he does in Miami.  If he wins, that's 8 rookie wins, 3 wins in his last 4 games and, IMO, great improvement in his command of the offense, matched with far fewer gadget plays.  So, I'd be hopeful that Geno could make a big leap in his 2nd pro year, just like many rookie QBs that struggle their first years.  If he loses AND plays poorly, I'd be less optimistic.


Even with my optimism as to his prospects, I still think MM (if he's still the OC) needs to bring in a vet to compete with him, especially a vet that knows how to run a WCO.  If Geno beats out a guy that can run the WCO well, then that would just add to my optimism.  If not, then the Jets have a vet and can try to approach offensive competence.

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99

The Jets improvement depends on a lot of things. 

We are supposedly cutting Holmes and Cro, we also have a lot of Free agents like Howard, Colon, Ducasse, Cumberland, most of the secondary and our core Special Teamers Lankster, Trufant, Bellore and Mauga.

If Idzik is going for the total overhaul including firing Rex then we could be worse next year. We have 12 draft picks and who knows how many of them will be force fed into the line-up like this year?

Pat d
Pat d

With Geno at QB?

ww85
ww85

YEAH. Well, hopefully, Rex will continue to be the HC of The New York Jets!

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@SackDance99I wasn't talking about Detroit; they have a good defense.  We disagree.  I think the Bears have a lot of things wrong with their run defense that transcends just adding a rookie LB.  As for the Packers, I said I thought they were easier to fix; I just don't expect a 1 year huge turnaround.

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99

In 2012 the Bears gave up 1627 yards rushing for the season vs. 2423 yards through 15 games this season.

They lost Uhrlacher and had several injuries that have hurt as well as the coaching change from Lovie to Trestman.

If Melton comes back healthy next year and they draft a CJ Mosley or another top MLB, they could easily be back in form for 2014. This is not a traditionally poor unit, this year has been more of an outlier.

The Lions have one of the best Defensive lines in the business and with better coaching would have one of the top defenses, IMHO. If Rex ends up there, look out!

GB can play defense when the offense is clicking because they can rush the passer........

Every team in the NFC has its' positives and negatives.....this is the NFL so any given Sunday!

SackDance99
SackDance99

@johnnyl65@SackDance99Great offensive teams need to do one thing: stop the run.  The Bears are one of the worst teams that I've ever seen against the run (last per FO); I don't think they can fix all of their problems in just 1 year.  The Packers are suffering from age and injury.  They're probably closer to being better defensively, however, expecting massive improvement against the run (30 per FO) is also doubtful.


Rob Ryan did a great job improving the Saints D, but he'd likely agree that it's easier to fix the pass D than the run D, especially when you have a 3-4 defense.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@SackDance99 @johnnyl65 True but I look at the Bears and Packers historically and judge them by the norm and that would be Offensively potent and Defensively opportunistic. Scheme can easily keep a bad defensive team winning with a high powered Offense and playing everything in front of you on the Defense.