Shaun Ellis Felt Disrespected by Jets

With the Super Bowl just days away, the Jets are still the topic of conversation in Indianapolis. Yesterday, Rich Cimini interviewed Shaun Ellis, and asked him to describe what happened between him and the Jets this past offseason.

The former New York Jets defensive end is on Cloud XLVI, enjoying life as a member of the New England Patriots, but he still harbors some bitterness toward his former team. Ellis, recalling his divorce from the Jets, said Tuesday he found their contract offer insulting — a one-year deal for the veteran’s minimum, $910,000.”Yeah, I did. No loyalty,” Ellis said at media day. “They preached that the whole time — loyalty, loyalty, blah, blah, blah.”

Ellis, 34, the longest-tenured defensive lineman in Jets history, was an unrestricted free agent last offseason after starting 15 games for them in 2010. But once they used their first-round pick on defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson, Ellis felt like he was cast aside.

Not only was he upset with their offer, but Ellis said “it was how they made it” that really peeved him. He suggested general manager Mike Tannenbaum and coach Rex Ryan weren’t upfront with him.

“They called and said, ‘We’re going to let Rex speak with you,’ ” Ellis said. “He said, ‘We want you to come back, but we’re not going to start you.’ I’m like, OK. Tannenbaum said, ‘We’ve got other guys in front of you, we’re offering you the minimum. We’ll get back to you.’

“It’s all how it went about. Just be stand-up, straight up. Just tell me the truth from the start. I’m a big boy, I can handle it. I just felt like there was a lot of sugar coating.”

Soon after the lockout was settled, Ellis signed a one-year, $4 million contract with the Patriots, the Jets’ longtime nemesis. You could argue that loyalty is a two-way street, and that Ellis was a sell out, but he insisted that wasn’t the case.

“I didn’t. They didn’t want me,” said Ellis, revealing that he will consider retirement after the Super Bowl. “That was obvious by what they offered me. … It was a no-brainer. I gave them an opportunity and they said, ‘Nope.’ “

 

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SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

I think the Knicks players coach themselves. Woodson's adjustments consist of lineup shuffles. His idea of scouting the other team is looking at the starting lineup for the other team and making his lineup decision based on how tall they are. I am so tired of hearing, "well Memphis is big so we're going to start a big lineup." We don't have a big lineup. Tyson and Bargnani are big in theory lol. We were out-rebounded 56-29!!! 


I cant stand to look at Woodson's gaping mouth on the sidelines one more game.

fasheezee
fasheezee

Woosy: "I don't think in terms of 2's and 3's..." What? What does b ball have specific postions for then you bobblehead!!!

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

At first I thought it was outrageous to blow this team up. 26 games in, it's not sounding that outrageous to me anymore.


I don't see a quick fix with a trade. Lowry won't put us over the top. Whatever is happening is systemic and deeply rooted. Everyone in the organization should be ashamed. Top to bottom.

William Lucca Jr
William Lucca Jr

Id make that trade for pau gasol. Didnt they want shumpert and amare for pau and 2014 draft pick?

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

Felton, Metta and a 1st for Lowry. Go get him...

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Guys, this is bad. We look REALLY bad. Injuries, at this point, are just an excuse. It's the same thing every game. We don't do ANYTHING well except take care of the ball. I don't think the coach is going anywhere. I fear Dolan may have an Isiah type love for him. I expect a loss every game now...it helps ease the inevitable pain a bit. If your best player is playing, you should be able to at least have a .500 record regardless of injuries. 

rgm891
rgm891

If we lose to the magic, it has to be over. We certainly aren't beating OKC.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

I'm going out for a bike ride. It's nice to have company for my misery. You guys rock. The Knicks slock.


Later

rgm891
rgm891

This is sad. Someone save the Knicks!!!!!!!!

tifoso6
tifoso6

Fire the coach.  With his big line-up we were out rebounded by a big amount.  This guy does not have a clue.  Murray can play defense, why isn't he out there.   Pathetic.

tommy2b
tommy2b

Can Bargnani and JR both have a good shooting night at the same time?  Too much to ask?

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

0-14 trailing at the half, 0-8 vs West, 4-10 at Msg yet we will wake up tomorrow and the coach will still be here, why? Nobody better?

lobcity
lobcity

Don't let me catch Woodson in the streets.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

how awful is this that the only reason you keep the coach that there's nobody replace him..

Mike Jones
Mike Jones

uhhhggggg this is really the worst knicks team we had in the last 5-6 yrs

knickfan2
knickfan2

"His idea of scouting the other team is looking at the starting lineup for the other team and making his lineup decision based on how tall they are."

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Lmao!!!

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@CL4nyk First you start with a coaching change. See how a new staff and leadership helps this team.

See how new mentorship allows Shumpert to mature and start developing and how it helps Timmy with his decision making and defense.

Try your hardest to make the playoffs so we don't give away a lottery pick and take your chances there.

Wait until the team's big contracts to reach their expiring year, then trade everything.

I believe in the talent here, I just don't believe on the coach. At all.

bockers
bockers

@NoVaCaInE  NO MORE TRADING FIRST ROUND PICKS.(unless bringing in a superstar).

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@SheSaidSpikeWho Melo can't do it alone. He's not an LBJ type of player. He's the one Knick player that's aguably played the hardest throughout the season, but there's only so much he can do with his given skillset.


- His coach makes no efforts to give him easy looks. His strategy is to dump him the ball with 7 seconds to go, have the rest of his players do nothing, and have Melo bail him out.


- JR's struggling big time (even though today he was pretty decent), and when there's no guy to help you out consistently, the trust and communication is lost. If a coach doesn't have good man management, which Woodson doesn't, this isn't addressed because he doesn't know how to.


- When your coach is too stubborn to understand when to pull players and give minutes to those who are helping, as a unit, it's tough to win when 3 out of 5 players are struggling while getting strong minutes.


- AB started well, but it's clear that he depends on a PG that can give him good P&P and P&R situations.


- Defensively, Woodson has no idea what he's doing. There's no trust, no help defense, no rotations. Nothing. The one decent thing I see is that there's less switching, but the lack of chemistry and cohesion, along with a coach that doesn't adjust, is just murdering this team.


- As far as hustle goes, that's both on the players and the coach. It is unacceptable for a professional to NEVER show up. This team just isn't capable of putting in the work of 48 minutes. When you get played millions, it's unacceptable. On the other hand, it's ridiculous that you're an NBA coach and you don't have it in you to motivate and inspire your players to rise.

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@Knicks_Fanatic But he was a +4. Aren't you the stat guy? LOL!

knickster
knickster

FIRE WOODSON - bring an outsider to coach. We need fresh blodd before the young players are permanently damaged.

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

@VerySilentJay@CL4nyk 

Woodson needs to go, no doubt about it, but I think the losing culture goes deeper. I think Bargs brought some over from Toronto too.

 And the fate of what would have been the Knicks draft pick this year should have absolutely no impact on decision making.

And what if we lose Melo for nothing?

I'm not saying blow up the team right now, but I no longer think it's an option that should be off the table.

William Lucca Jr
William Lucca Jr

O i couldve sworn it was for amare instead, but i guess not....

jimmybx
jimmybx

@VerySilentJay @SheSaidSpikeWho If you put "LBJ" on this roster, the  Knicks wouldn't be any better, unless of course the refs apply the LeFraud rules towards the rest of the team. 

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@OLD_KNICK @SheSaidSpikeWho Exactly. I didn't expect a championship team at all since we didn't address any of our needs in the offseason. I certainly didn't expect this though...and it feels like it's just going to continue. 

bockers
bockers

@VerySilentJay@CL4nyk The difference is GG rid the Knicks of Copeland and Novak and Kidd retired.They were the three point shooters

and yet Woodson who has no concept of offense has them shooting treys.


Melo will resign for the extra money and he should be made aware of the cap space in 2015

to sign a Robin to his Batman.


If Melo opts out and goes to another team we will not be able to recruit a superstar.

knickster
knickster

I have been saying it for a while...

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@CL4nyk @VerySilentJay It really is impressive how a new coach can change not only mindsets, but cultures.

When Chandler got here, he singlehandedly changed the team's way of viewing the game.

It's all about hustle, leadership, and influence. Chandler has that over the team.

Clearly, last season the vets had a lot of that, giving the team maturity and balance.

Now that they're gone, Woodson's man management. leadership, and motivation capabilities have been completely exposed.


Obviously if there's even a whiff that Melo's not resigning as a FA, you trade him before the deadline, but our FO's too stupid to understand that this has to be addressed as soon as possible.