Buzz: Jets interested in moving up … into top ten?

NFL Media insider Ian Rapoport reports today that the Jets are serious about moving up to get their man at receiver.

Rapoport updated his earlier report (TJB, May 6) on the Jets interest, by sharing just how far the Jets might be willing to go.

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Mark me down as skeptical. This sure seems like some draft-week smokescreeing. If the Jets are going to trade up into the top ten, I have to question whether it would really be for Odell Beckham Jr. ODB is a fine talent, but is there enough to differentiate ODB from Brandin Cooks or Marqise Lee who the team might be able to nab by sitting still with the 18th pick? They would have to be gaga for Beckham to do something so drastic with plenty of talented receivers likely available well into the third round.

No, if the Jets are going to move up that far, it would be for either Clemson WR Sammy Watkins or Texas A&M WR Mike Evans — the two “total package” receivers (size, speed, physicality, hands) in this draft class. And even moving up into the top ten offers no guarantees to getting either player … I would not be surprised to see them both be gone by the fifth pick. Many other teams are sniffing around trading into the top ten, so even trading into the back half of the top ten for the Jets might prove a fool’s errand if the goal is truly to draft Evans or Watkins.




107 comments
Kramer Kent
Kramer Kent

If Watkins fall to 4 Id try and see if the browns are willing to trade out to get Watkins. The jets & browns have been trade partners in previous drafts.

Simon Gribben
Simon Gribben

THWARTED EXPECTATIONS is the name of the game called "The Draft".  Watching players you know MUST be on your team or you've "lost" something you never had is a prescription for having a nervous weekend on an up and down merry-go-round.   Given it will take years to determine if the wage slaves won in this poker game are fantastic workers or busts, the emotional ride is manufactured joy and sorrow, "sound and fury, signifying nothing".   The same could be said of all sports activities, anything to distract us from the ordinary.   Manufactured Excitement is the name of all games.  I will attempt to skip the "live" draft and wait for the glorious, endless debate on who got what even before who got what has a chance to actually play.  Who says life isn't fun?  We manufacture or own joy and sorrow out of nothing.

boose2
boose2

I'm no Economics major, but if this draft is indeed deeper than any other in recent history, wouldn't any potential trading of these picks reflect the increase in value of the picks? Shouldn't the high demand for these picks equate to a lower supply of potential picks available to teams wanting to trade down? I've heard that a 2nd this year is like a 1st any other year...a 3rd is like a 2nd, etc. So if the value chart reflects this, & we can make a reasonable move for a player we are in love with, I can't argue with this move.

Vincent Morelli
Vincent Morelli

They won't be moving up to get a WR, but I believe it would be Anthony Barr, OLB UCLA

r_in_ct
r_in_ct

I wonder if starting a rumor that you're trading up into the top 10 isn't a way to generate interest in actually trading down ...


Folllow me on this .... Idzik is getting a reputation for being a guy who's going to stay still and let the draft come to him, which may take him off the draft day radar of other GMs. Now in such a deep draft, trading down is a good strategy—if you can pick up more picks (or even higher picks next year) and still get good players this year, well, every single GM in the NFL would do it in a heartbeat, so that's not really a story that the media or anyone else is going to report. But put out "the word" that you're looking to trade up—bang, instant story, and with the NY media whipping up more buzz than you could imagine. Now, another GM with a lower pick hears that the Jets want to "move up" and thinks, "Hmm ... I guess that means Idzik is willing to make some sort of deal rather than stand pat, maybe I should give him a call." Now Idzik is getting calls on the 18 pick that he may not have gotten before, and possibly a deal comes from that.

I know it sounds a bit crazy, but we're in the crazy season right now. 


Just throwing it out there.

kniff
kniff

Cooks, Ebron, or Beckham make the grade at 18...


Hold on boys, only three more days!

marc55
marc55

I'm alone on an island in thinking Mike Evans is stiff and overrated.

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

Yes he is the missing piece to our SB dynasty.

If we had needs at more than one position it would be smart to trade down, but since we're only one piece away...

Quincy Miles
Quincy Miles

If anyone knows the "Shiny Hood Ornament" law (the data suggesting that almost all first round WR's don't translate to more victories, at least not in the first season), it's Idzik.  And with so much WR talent to be had down the line, why we the Jets cough up picks and deviate from the formula for a receiver who isn't a clear-cut, bona fide superstar in the making?

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Idzik is one huge puff of smoke, what a smoke screen this cat can produce, he must be setting off his smoke detectors like mad, lol

maxjet
maxjet

Can you spell "smokescreen". All of the sudden Idzik is letting the cat out of the bag. I doubt it. If Evans falls to 8-10 then maybe. But that kind of move will be costly. I think idzik is the type of GM who lets the draft come to him. I think moving down from 18 is more of a  possibility. It all goes to show me that all this wait because of the delay until May has "overcooked" this year's draft. 

williamg1
williamg1

If Idzik moves up to the top 10 to pick OBJ, I will personally run Idzik out of town. 

If anything, the Jets need to trade down and pick up another 3rd.

MoSacks MoSnacks
MoSacks MoSnacks

Let's not forget all of the hype surrounding the Jets and our 12 draft picks. First off, it's almost 100% certain that all 12 players, assuming we don't trade any picks, will not be on the roster come the start of the season. 12 rookies is far too much of a gamble, and would require a ton of veterans to be cut in the process. By this logic, we'd essentially be cutting players we drafted and giving them up to other teams. This does not sound like a recipe for success. Thus, I do not have a problem with the Jets trading up, but my question is to where and for how much. I think trading to the top 10 costs too much. Moving up a few spots, if an ODB or Dennard is available I'm all for. Also, trading to get another pick in round 2 would suit our needs I think.

a57se
a57se

Everyone knows how much I like Beckham but trading up to ten to take him would be really dumb......

harvlis
harvlis

No way Idzik moves up.  This is just like when, in free-agency, we were rumored to be negotiating with every free agent on the market.  Don't believe the hype.  If anything, we are moving down and stockpiling the draft choices. 

Eddy Lopez
Eddy Lopez

SMOKE SCREEN!!!!


All of a sudden there is a leak Idzik let that out so he could stir the pot.


Players always fall in every round lets sit pretty at 18 will get our guy but in the 2nd or 3rd rd if we can trade our late picks just so we can move into those rds that would be great.

jvsvn
jvsvn

I'm skeptical too. However, if they think there is a guy that would be a real difference maker, then maybe this is the year to pull the trigger on a trade up. They're not going to have twelve picks every year. Watkins is probably out of reach but Evans might still be available at 8 or 9. Their thinking might be to get that true #1 receiver and let him grow with Geno to become the cornerstone of the offense for the next few years. That's actually not a bad thought so long as they're right on in their player evaluations. Obviously, it's pointless to move up if the guy who they could have had at 18 turns out to be as good or better than the guy they move up for.

Kyle Suta
Kyle Suta

Bold Prediction:

The jets will take G Su-A-Filo or S Calvin Pryor at #18.

jaym
jaym

I hope Idzik is not listening to Bradway about trading up. We all know how that works out.

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@Simon Gribben  What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having reading it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Brian Serviss
Brian Serviss

@DarrolRayFanClub  Manziel is not going to be a Jet. People need to realize that he won't come anywhere close to where the Jets draft and I thank god for that

Pat d
Pat d

What position does translate into victories.

bob
bob

@a57se

See what yoy started a57se . Now you got the Jets going bananas over this guy..Dat right  dats all you fault..lol

Pat d
Pat d

I couldn't have said it better

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@jvsvn  


Well known how much I think Evans is a great match for the Jets, and especially Geno, but not sure I'd spend the resources needed to move up high on any one player in this draft.   If he was still there at 14 I might start making phone calls...but I still might not do the deal.   In a draft this deep a second round pick is almost the equivalent of a first, and a third rounder almost a second.    I'd be very careful with them.     

yankspride
yankspride

@Kyle Suta  

Yeah ya saw that too on NFL Network and the pick made by Marshall was Su'a-Filo.  Glad to see Mayock said that was a reach at 18.  If ya want Su'a trade down as the highest I've seen him in any mock is 31, and ya still can get him.

marcus81
marcus81

@jaym Sanchez and Hill come to mind, forgot Keller too

Pat d
Pat d

I like sarcasm

maxjet
maxjet

@jake100 @maxjet  Yeah, me too. First time I can't take the "talking heads" discussing who is going to go where. Boy, enough, already. Go Jets!

nagel100
nagel100

@jake100  Lee would be fine but i think a CB is just as likely.

juunit
juunit

@bob @a57se 

It's an extremely elaborate smokescreen where Idzik called up 57 and got him to fool us all. 

jvsvn
jvsvn

@Hazard2012 @jvsvn  I agree. I actually don't see them moving up. I was just speculating on what the rationale would be assuming they were going to do it.

juunit
juunit

@jaygo @Kyle Suta 

He's a great player. I'm just opposed to taking another guard, especially that high. It's all we did last offseason. We really can't just keep throwing s*** at one position all the time.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@jaygo @Kyle Suta  


All true...but my problem is with Su'a Filo warranting pick 18.  He'll still be there in the mid-twenties and later, maybe even early second round.   Matthews, Robinson, Lewan, at 18, maybe, but not Su'a Filo or Martin.   


If you want a road grader --- and I agree we need one---you can get a good one without picking them at 18.   

jaym
jaym

S.Greene, Greg Jolley, Mike Nuggent are also Bradway draft day trades

maxjet
maxjet

@jake100 @maxjet I'm hanging. In retrospect this delay is nothing for us as Jet fans. We have the patience of Saints. I have been waiting since 1969. Lol

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@jvsvn @Hazard2012  


I don't see Idzik moving up at all, but Evans is the only WR I'd even consider doing it for.   

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@jaygo @Hazard2012 @Kyle Suta  


Not sure we disagree.  I actually think Su'a Filo is at least as good as Zack Martin, but that they're a cut below the big three OL in this draft...Robinson, Matthews and Lewan.   They're the only three I think worth pick 18. 


I have no problem taking either Su'a Filo or Martin later in the first, or early in the second...especially if we've moved down, collected extra picks, and were in a position to move up in the top second round to grab Su'a, Martin or maybe a WR or CB passed up when we took the OLmen in the first.  


What we can't do is not get the weapons.  If we go OL in the first we better be darn sure we've got our WR's and TE's lined up thereafter.  


Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@jaygo @Hazard2012 @Kyle Suta  


Totally agree re need.   Many think we're good to go with the OL, given recent investment in players, but I don't see any of them as difference-makers...especially if Rex and MM want to upgrade the ground game and take the pressure off Geno.   


After Zack Martin there have to be 6-8 quality options at OL; many capable of playing multiple positions, always a plus.  You can get them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.   


Considering our many other, more pressing needs, that might be one way to go.  



jaym
jaym

Ooops Doug Jolley