Daily Links: Counting down the days

  • 10 plays to mark the 10 Sundays to go point [Jets Official Site]
  • Is there a divide between GM and coach re: CB personnel? [GGN]
  • Could the dreaded “RBBC” actually work for this Jets team? [iSportsWeb]
  • Cromartie runs 4.3 in workout [NESN]
  • 1979 season retrospective [One Jet at a Time]



66 comments
David Aron
David Aron


without going thru the 122 comments, apropos the RBBC link, could the Jets have signed RB Daryl Richardson as gamesmanship for the Rams poaching off waivers 2012 6th rd draft pick RB Terrance Ganaway (who has retired from football)?

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

Off Topic?


Anybody else see Jason Kidd is Aaron Hernandez without a gun?

Kirk Michael
Kirk Michael

I respect Idziks opinion on choosing players and Rexs on defense especially,offense its up and down. But as far as Seattle if Idzik was helping with these picks Sherman ws picked and Browner was brought in. Rex also put such an emphasis on keeping Revis and Cro. But Name the corners on Rexs defenses in baltimore  without looking it up. He had a great front 7 ed reed and D. Landry. N that article doesnt make sense what so ever of course i wasn't happy losing Revis and Cro but Idzik did end up taking Milliner after losing Revis the best corner in the draft and someone who made huge strides after injury and no off season. This year we take a big time safety in the draft and in Seattle tthey also put emphasis on safety. We have youth thru out the defense but most of them have proved they can already play n two of of them at a top 100 player level in the nfl, next Harrison turns into a great NT with Ellis who is also very good. But then we get Mcdougle and I trust Idziks judgement in later rounds on corner. i just think Idziks philosophy on bringing in corners is different then rexs, while rex likes to already proven fa or corner by trades or high picks and Idziks philosophy to me you can get good corner play later in the draft and for cheaper in FA. But either way our young front 7 will apply enough pressure with out as much blitzing as rex normally does. Rex and idzik are on the same page and so far Mcdougle has looked good with limited reps. I just think Rex can finally just get to the qb with superior line play with Q, ellis, douzable,pace,barnes,cunningham, mcintyre n of course the sons of anarchy, from there the Milliner, pryor, mcdougle, patterson, Landry, Wilson,and Allen will make plays on the ball flying around with there speed and youth. 

Kirk Michael
Kirk Michael

Its over with now but when we cut him I said it was a really dumb move not resign him or to not even cut him this season because of the youth now in our secondary and also someone manning up and playing hurt the whole season is a man with balls and loyalty, and he deserved some in return. Harris looked almost terrible two seasons ago n this last season he played well. Cro would of had a good season this year and our depth would of been great still being able to have Milliner, Patterson, Wilson, n Mcdougle, n then Lankster and Walls. There in the top three at corner with Cro, Honey Badger, and of course P Squared.  

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

We've got young corners that will need time to develop and learn Rex's system.  The team is still rebuilding and won't likely be a contender for a few years.  We've got to stabilize the QB situation and the offensive line.  Bringing in a free agent CB wouldn't do us much good at this point.  The team is young and on the rise, but we've got to be patient.

machoking
machoking

Cromartie ran a 4.3.... Can he turn left?

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

The One Jet at a Time article about 1979 contains this nugget:


"Robinson was traded to the Denver Broncos for both a first-round pick and a second-round pick in the 1980 NFL Draft on Feb. 1 , 1980."


Nice to know that the Revis-TB deal wasn't the only time we fleeced someone with a trade.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

RBBC is hardly dreaded it's actually how the position has been treated for quite some time now the days of the single back are dead. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Kirk Michael

But Name the corners on Rexs defenses in baltimore  without looking it up.


Chris McAlister, Duane Starks, Gary Baxter, Corey Fuller, and Samari Rolle.


And, despite your dismissiveness of them, they were actually pretty damn good.  McAlister might be the most underrated CB of the 2000s.


(And yes, I really did do that without looking them up.)

__fense
__fense

@Kirk Michael I don't understand where you're getting what Rex's philosophy for getting CBs is. Rex has never been in a position to actually make personnel decisions before. 


Trading for established players was Tanny's thing at every positions, since before Rex got here. Are you saying that now, for this one position, that was all Rex's doing? 


It's incredibly obvious to me that Idzik and Ryan work very well together. I don't get why people keep trying to force this idea that they hate each other.  

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Kirk Michael Last season, it wasn't Cro's straight-line speed that anyone questioned, it was his lateral mobility.  It's great that he ran a 4.3, still doesn't mean that he'll be an effective cover CB.

levi
levi

@Ceifus Hornswoggle If we are a few years away from contending then we will be in a constant rebuild mode because we will need a new LT,C, RB's and MLB. Probably coach and GM too.

williamg1
williamg1

@tsjc68 I like this comment:


"Authorities say the third and youngest brother, Baby Baqrib, was seen at a nearby restaurant."


levi
levi

@johnnyl65 Maybe its meant in reference to their hair styles...

Bytor
Bytor

@levi @Ceifus Hornswoggle If Geno's the real deal, none of this matters. Look at Cincy. Great team, average QB. Can't make the jump because of one player. I'm confident we'll draft, sign or develop replacements for all the positions you listed. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @johnnyl65

But the Seahawks and Ravens have already begun adding backs to Lynch and Rice to move away from making them the focal point by siphoning off their carries and giving them to guys like Christine Michael and Robert Turbin and Bernard Pierce and Lorenzo Taliaferro.


(Also, Bradshaw was always part of a timeshare with either Jacobs, or Ward, or both).


There's very few teams left who exclusively use a true "bellcow" who takes all the carries, and even those teams (like SEA and BAL that you mentioned and probably MIN with Peterson as well) are starting to move away from that model and are adding at least a good backup to cut into that bellcow's touches per game.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@levi Maybe,we all know that's what's important in a RB. If that's the case we're going to have to get Bilal a wig.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Hanknaples @a57se

Football/futbol/soccer (whatever you want to call it) is the most popular sport in the world.  This is not a debate.  Do not waste time arguing that fact with someone who disagrees, because that person is wrong.

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@tsjc68 @Hanknaples @a57se 

If you consider it a sport...  Doesn't take much skill to run around.  Considering all you need is a ball to play, it's going to be a popular pass time, but just because a lot of people do it, doesn't make it a sport.

Bytor
Bytor

@a57se @Bytor @levi Really, every team's window is closing. I'm sure there's a plan. I just hope our QB develop into something special. I'm cautiously optimistic.

levi
levi

@a57se  I think we are closer than a few years away. I guess we have to see how this year goes first though.

levi
levi

@Bytor  It would be hard for him not to improve from last year.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@johnnyl65 @a57se

Yup, because even "feature backs" like LeVeon Bell and Gio Bernard and Arian Foster were and are still being paired with 1A (and often 1B) options to limit their total carries (like the Steelers adding LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer to lessen Bell's workload, or the Bengals adding Jeremy Hill to lessen Bernard's workload, or the Texans replacing their Ben Tate Foster-Handcuff with a new Andre Brown/Alfred Blue Foster-Handcuff).


Even teams with true bellcow feature backs are actively attempting to use those feature backs LESS by surrounding them with an RBBC who can keep the feature back fresh and rested and avoid overuse.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@a57se @Hanknaples

No, it's no different.  Uruguay going crazy for soccer is no different than the USA going crazy for football.


And yes, Uruguay is a small country.


The problem is, there's only one USA (and it only accounts for about 5% of the world's total population.)


Add up all those little soccer-mad countries like Uruguay, and you're already at more people who like soccer than people who like football just from the small countries like Uruguay alone, and then you have to add on all the BIG soccer-mad countries like Iran and Brazil and Argentina and Nigeria and Germany and Mexico and France and Russia and etc. etc.


Soccer is just WAY more popular than American Football.  It's not close.  At all.

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@Hanknaples 

I understand that kicking a ball around a field is an easy, popular pass time, but if you've ever watched competitive soccer, it doesn't get much more complicated, even at the highest levels of participation.  As an analogy, is addition and subtraction considered mathematics?  Sure, and I'd assume when the concepts first came about, adding two numbers was probably considered pretty impressive.  As the world has developed, with the advent of advanced mathematics, you can't really hold simple arithmetic very highly.  Same with soccer.  It was originally played by Neanderthals and hasn't changed much since its formation.  You look at real sports, like American football and Golf, and you see an incredible rise in complexity, technology, and required commitment.  It's just difficult to take simple activities, like soccer, very seriously.

maynard
maynard

It is a sport... An incredibly dull and boring sport. But it is a sport

Pete 57
Pete 57

What I find interesting about European football is that you are not allowed to use your hands. I can't think of another sport where that is the case. Always thought it was strange that someone would make up a sport and not allow players to use their hands.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples If table tennis is a sport then darts and pool should be too.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples  They have incredible senses. I unsuccessfully hunt them  from time to time. Im not sure I would even shoot one but I enjoy the challenge of trying to be able to. But I havent had a kill shot yet so never had to decide.


I did have one come pretty close when I was bow hunting though and that scared me a bit.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Hank, the actual estimates are around 3 billions fans in the world, which would still make it a runaway for the most popular sport on the planet. 

Pete 57
Pete 57

As opposed to American football. I'm sure you understood. But yes, why would someone create a sport where you can't use your hands? That's what I can't wrap my head around.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples  Actually that shooting competition on skies has got to be very difficult.

levi
levi

@a57se  You guessed wrong I play neither. But Ive won a good many drinks playing pool.