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68 comments
bob
bob

Stayed up late last night rooting for the Rangers and each time LA scored I had a tendency of changing the channel then going back to the game. Awe shucks..

harold
harold

If Jace is just above average for his position and Geno is just a top 20 QB this year we actually should make the playoffs.  Both of these things remain to be seen, however I think they will likely be the two biggest factors in our success.

bob
bob

Its starting to sound like our 3rd and 4th round pics are comming along really well. Guys you remember Leon Washington and Brad Smith..those 4th rounder really propelled the Jets to a better place. I think not only our 4th round pics will turn out well but also our 3rd round pic will to. and if thats the case. wow.. No body is gonna want to play the Jets this year..

Brendan
Brendan

Louis Riddick ‏@LRiddickESPN  13h

I'm told that based on what he's done to THIS point in off-season, #Jets SAF Calvin Pryor has been "special". Pads should confirm in camp.


Not sure if this was posted here yesterday (I was music festivaling most of the weekend), but this makes me happy (cue people saying it means nothing or whatever)

a57se
a57se

@bob 

It was hard to watch the game last night........oh well.

eurojet
eurojet

@jake100 Chris Johnson below average (ok), but Bilal Powell average? Ivory (led the league in yards after contact) should be "good", Wilkerson is elite

tsjc68
tsjc68

@jake100 Chris Johnson is not a "below average starter".  That's ridiculous.  He's average, at worst, and will likely play above average now that he has a legit runningmate to split carries with and remain fresh (and is playing behind a better OL than the traveshamockery that was the Titans interior OL).

harold
harold

@jake100 


Mangold is a high quality starter maybe not elite but certainly high quality  Brick could be as well.  I think Ivory is a good starter.  Giacomini is a good starter.  Everyone else is about right.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold


Geno being top-20 QB >>>>>> Jace above-average (slightly) TE


In terms of importance, at least. One is a must, one is very important, but not a must

harold
harold

@bob 


Don't forget we drafted very well in 2006 and 2007 at the top of the draft.  If our first 2 picks this year turn into studs we will be set up for a good run.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Brendan


Not sure if this was posted here yesterday (I was music festivaling most of the weekend),


Grantland had a nice music festival joke the other day in an article about the MLB Draft.


Really, the MLB draft is a lot like Bonnaroo: It takes several days to complete, features a lot of people you’ve never heard of, and elicits strong opinions from people who possess an annoying amount of esoteric information. And if you’re not prepared, you could wind up alone, muddy, and disoriented in a field.


http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2014-mlb-draft-primer-brady-aiken-carlos-rodon-alex-jackson/

bob
bob

@Brendan 

Rex did say he  that he's a leader.. I love his confidense. The Jets need a guy like this. I like him..

jaygo
jaygo

@a57se @bob


I watched the Kings do the same thing to my Devils two years ago.  As a fan of neither team but just a hockey fan, I thought it was actually pretty good.  Quick put on the best goaltending performance last night I think I have ever seen.  That was the definition of a goaltender "standing on his head" and "stealing" a game on the road.  Kings are simply bigger, stronger and more talented than the Rangers.  The entire Western Division was better than the East all year.  Quick is better than Lundquist, period.  Rangers caught a break in first two rounds facing below average goalies.  Not his time.  Also goes to show the difference of building from within as opposed to going out and signing aging, unwanted, fading "stars" from other teams.   

eurojet
eurojet

Colon should be "good" as well, Coples and Pace are average. The rest is ok

Pat d
Pat d

People tend to over rate the Jets on this site. The Jets OL was not all that last year and the Titans OL is not as bad as you seem to think.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@jake100 Ditto Antonio Allen.  Calling Allen "below average" is also incorrect.

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@harold @jake100 Mangold had a rougher year due to having to deal with Winters on his left. That's where this stuff is coming from.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@harold @jake100 I agree, breno though, I say is just average.

harold
harold

@Brendan @harold 


I concur that Geno is the more important piece. I just think if Amaro is slightly above average it will open up the filed for Geno and the entire offense.  Plus give him 25 additional easy throws he can complete and move the chains or make a positive play when not much is there.  That is why I see Amaro as an important piece. 

bob
bob

@harold @bob 

The Jets really have a good scouting department not to mention adding guys like Idzik, Ryon and Morhinweg into the mix hat off to Terry Bradway for sticking around.

Brendan
Brendan

@bob Unless I've completely misread the situation, I think Rex is most impressed with how Pryor's grasped the defense. He's showing he's the type of player who doesn't just know his own role in a defense, but also knows how the all the roles in a defense operate together. People were talking about Rex seeing him as the future QB of the defense, and it seems like he may have been right. 

a57se
a57se

@jaygo @a57se 

I think the Rangers have outplayed the Kings in this series for the most part.

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo There's not much you can do when a goalie is playing the way Quick was. Any other goalie and the Rangers are putting a couple in the net last night. Ah, well.

Brendan
Brendan

@Pat d I don't think anyone is saying the Jets OL as a whole was anything special, but Mangold individually is a different story. 

a57se
a57se

@Pat d 

Agreed hence it might be a wash for Chris Johnson coming here.

Bent
Bent moderator

@tsjc68 @jake100 Been watching some film from 2013 and I actually think that assessment is pretty fair.  He was very up and down and struggled at the start of the year, making plenty of routine mistakes in his safety role some of which were very costly.


Where he excelled was when put into man to man coverage against some top tight ends.  However, even then he got beaten half the time.  Now, of course, half the time is actually a pretty good job against some of those guys but if you're grading him purely on good plays versus bad plays, then his final grade will be negative.


Where the grades fall down is that they don't take into account the difficulty of the assignment (nor should they because representing that numerically would be a subjective exercise).  However, you'd like to see that factored into an analysis.


That's their grading system though and you can't fault them for sticking to it, but here's an example of where how well he performed doesn't account for what he's capable of above and beyond any other safety.  (Like, say you put Landry in man to man, he'd get beaten pretty much every time by some of those guys).


It's similar to when Braylon graded out as one of the worst blockers (justifiably so because he had many more negative than positive blocks) but Rex called him one of the best.  You reconcile that by the fact he's being asked to do things other receivers wouldn't be and just holding his own in those situations goes above and beyond replacement level.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 Average for all tackles, maybe, for a RT he's a good starter. There are not 32 starting-quality RT's in the league (still), and teams are continuing to trot out absolute nightmares at the position. "average" is "good starter" at RT. 

Brendan
Brendan

@harold It'd definitely be huge for the team, I just meant that the team could work around sub-par TE play, they can't work around sub-par QB play, they can only minimize the damage. 

bob
bob

@Brendan @bob 

Yep its gonna be exciting year.. Rex did say that most of the guys in the locker room where a type A personailty and to layed back that when the Jets drafted him Pryor was a type B personality which was missing on this team..you can see he knows hoew to talk and it not about himself.

 A leader in the making..that moxy will translate onto the feild and spark the defense like young hungry players can do.

jaygo
jaygo

@a57se @jaygo


In hockey, one player - - - the goalie - - - can dominate a game, a series and the result.  Quick has outplayed Lundquist every game.  3-0 Kings.  

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @Pat d 

Mangold is on the downside of a nice career. He is not as good as he was a few years ago.........

harold
harold

@Brendan @harold 


Agree, completely with being able to work around the TE and it is a point well taken. 


The reason Amaro is important is because I really think if he steps up we can be even better.


So, I was really trying to be non-controversial and not say contend for the division or more...

a57se
a57se

@jaygo @a57se 

I think the Kings defenders have done a better job than the rangers defensemen of keeping the slot clear. Any goalie can succeed when he has unimpeded vision of the puck.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Okay. He's still a high-quality starter, but is shown as being rated lower than that, which was Harold's original point. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

I agree with the rating..........both he and Brick are on a downward trend though I think Brick may be a little further down than Mangold.

The excuse that Winters was between them is bullpucky to me. Those two vets should have been able to carry Winters and they couldn't. Elite players would have easily.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se If you think the Winters explanation is an excuse, you're further exhibiting your Jet bias, or a lack of understanding of blocking schemes, but since you've shown you understand blocking schemes for the most part, I'll just go with Jet bias. 


Mangold, even now, is a top level starter. Elite? After year you can say he's not that level anymore, but you can't argue that he's not a top level starter. Taking into account he's orchestrating the OL while also compensating for a turnstile next to him (and keeping his QB clean in the process - only 1 QB hit all season, no sacks), he's top level. 


And if you bothered looking at the key, there are different colors for elite (which Wilkerson should be) and top level ("high quality") starter. I'm not even saying Mangold is elite, just high quality. 

harold
harold

@a57se

Mangold is clearly still a top 6-10 Center.  Maybe not elite but certainly a high quality player.

I still think he is elite but to be fair at least high quality.

Remember most centers do not have the individual assignments Mangold has. 

a57se
a57se

@harold 

Getting a so called difficult assignment and screwing it up doesn;t impress me as being elite.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se What is it you like to say? Oh, right. 


"Great post," 57. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Ok, you are not biased towards Mangold and you don't over state his prowess..........;o)

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I gave a very fair and reasonable comment and I've never claimed to be unbiased about Mangold. But there is a difference between my pumping a guy's mystique up as a fan and me giving objective analysis of his position. Try it sometime. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Not just me, many people on this blog, including Bent. But since you seem to care not for his opinion anymore (or anyone's who makes a habit of disagreeing with you), I guess that is meaningless. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se File this under "57 undermining himself the next time he goes off about someone's immaturity." 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I'm not a 6 year old, you replying with comments like this won't upset me, it's just legitimately funny how you behave in one instance before scolding someone in another.