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Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

How about rewarding the fans with some wins? :)

Actually this is probably aimed more at the Mets.


Brendan
Brendan

 “You could look at it as a bad thing or a good thing,” Ivory said of backs sharing carries. “But it’s really a good thing, as far as saving your body. I think it helps with longevity. The life span for a running back in this league is different than what it used to be, just because of guys splitting carries, and not taking as much of a beating as they used to. If you’re not a guy who wants to be in that (splitting carries) system, find another system. But at the end of the day, it helps you as an individual, as far as your body.”



#CONTROVERSY 

Bent
Bent moderator

Interesting idea to get people into their seats early, but I feel like the reason this happens is that tailgating at Metlife is just such awesome fun that it's difficult to drag yourself away in good time to get to your seats.  It's the Jets fault for having such awesome fans!


It would be nice if you could get in line 10 minutes before kickoff and have time to get a drink on the way to your seat and still make it in time for the anthem, but I guess this is a hopeless cause and the only way they're going to fill the stadium by kickoff is to bribe people to go in 20 minutes early.


Hey, if it works, there is a benefit to the team so I'm all for it.

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@gbrownn "Graded at +5.9 on passes thrown to tight ends."


Anybody else think the Jets knew that when they grabbed Amaro?

a57se
a57se

@gbrownn 

Interesting that some of the areas he excelled at in College he was poor at last season and vice versa.

For Example:

In College he had his most success on passes in the 1-10 yard range yet was -14.4 last year.

He didn't fare very well on third downs in College yet performed admirably as a rookie with a +7.8 grade!

His deep ball accuracy was questioned coming out of college yet he graded out well in the 21-30 yard range.

In College he got rid of the ball very quickly yet as a rookie he struggled doing that.


Brendan
Brendan

@gbrownn •  Among the league’s best on third down at +7.8, including an impressive +6.4 grade against third down blitzes.


That is legitimately surprising, and definitely encouraging. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@gbrownn Interesting that he grades well on corner routes.  He was 6th in the league in terms of throwing the most corner routes, with Peyton Manning right down near the bottom because for whatever reason he hardly ever throws one (these days).  This could be somewhere Decker contributes over and above what he did in Denver.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan Here's how it will be reported on PFT:


 “You could look at it as a bad thing [...]" Ivory said of backs sharing carries.

bob
bob

@Brendan 

I say they should  look at it this way . Ya getting paid?    Well all righty then.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Part of the issue with the wait times is the heightened security at NFL games. They used to just *tap*tap* and let you go through, but now they search every bag, give people a real pat-down, etc. It doesn't sound like much, but an extra 10-15 seconds per person x 80,000 adds up. 


But if we're being honest, it's because people are in the parking lots squeezing out every last drop of booze they can before going inside. I'm one of those guilty parties, but paying for beer inside (Coors? Seriously? Would it kill these guys to bring in some craft brews or something?) is way too expensive. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Marcus Armstrong Did he have anything in the way of a tight end to throw to in college?

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @gbrownn You don't need advanced stats to know how disappointing he was on short passes, especially since he excelled at them in college but also since in preseason he actually looked good on those.


As I suspected with Sanchez, I wonder if Geno works hard on improving certain areas but then this causes areas where he was doing well to suffer as a result.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se "admirably" = among the league's best? 


C'mon, 57, give the man his due. 

gbrownn
gbrownn

" He converted 11 third-and-11-plus situations with completions (five to Jeremy Kerley) and one more on a third-and-14 keeper. The 11 passing conversions easily led all NFL quarterbacks, and the 12 total conversions were the most by any Jets QB in a season since 1966. His long-range conversion ability was league-leading, not league-trailing."

http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-randylangeblogfb/6-Ways-Geno-Smith-Was-Better-Than-Some-Think/436e8bd1-6e4f-4b13-8105-50d68e942cd9

That article outlines something about that earlier this month. I was just as surprised as you. The Geno haters will say "we faced some many long 3rd downs because he was so bad on 1st and 2nd tho!" Leading the league on 3rd and long completions coupled with his game winning drives shows the kid has a real poise about him, imo. Impressive stuff no matter how ya slice it.

gbrownn
gbrownn

@Bent I just watched the last Dolphins game and 2nd game vs the pats. He threw some corner routes that were things of beauty, dropped them right in the hands of his reciever. Decker is so versatile Im sure he wouldnt have trouble running those routes either. Something to look out for I guess. 

Brendan
Brendan

@bob Gettin' paid and gettin' la-......lots of big plays? 

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

@Brendan @Bent Seriously...I get that beer at stadiums will always be waaaaay overpriced, but does it also have to be terrible.  I can bring myself to pay extra, but not for a T&A ad beer.


jaym
jaym

@Brendan @Bent 

Here's an idea if they want people in the stadium early maybe cut the concession stand prices by 50% before the game. But we know that will never happen.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent Yeah, if you do the math, an extra 10 seconds per person x 80,000 is 222 hours.  So, even if they hire 222 security staff, that's an hour to get everyone searched and scanned.  Obviously it's doable if people show up in a steady stream.


My thought: Won't this mean EVERYONE tries to get in just before 15 minutes to go, thereby creating a huge logjam?

a57se
a57se

@Bent 

This seems to happen a lot with Rookie QB's...Geno isn't the first one I've seen this type of thing with!

Bent
Bent moderator

@gbrownn Again I think that was something (like the deep balls) where he had most of his success early in the year and that carried him final number into the upper echelon rather than any consistency in that area.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Disgruntled Jets Fan @Brendan @Bent


Tastes alright to me.


/is British and therefore must enjoy warm beer and by association have really low standards for beer quality (and dentistry).

Brendan
Brendan

@jaym I don't see why the team should lose money to get fans to get to their seats on time. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Honestly, I doubt it. I doubt my tailgating group will start packing things up 30 minutes earlier to make it in and I assume many other fans will feel the same. We have it timed so we're in our seats before kickoff, but we're in the minority as far as the late-comers go. 


I think people will have a wait-and-see approach on this, until they start getting points and earning rewards. 


I'm waiting for people to get pissed off that the more expensive seats earn more points.



Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent No doubt an NFL pass rush is a lot tougher to deal with than a collegiate one.

gbrownn
gbrownn

@a57se @Bent I think his struggles with short passes go hand and hand with who was out there out reciever. Nobody really capable of "winning quick" consistenly besides Kerley.

levi
levi

@Bent  Dont forget the slapstick humor.  Did I say that right?

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @jaym "I don't see why the team should lose money to get fans to get to their seats on time."


Presumably these rewards cost money, so...


It's not the worst idea I ever heard.

jaym
jaym

@Brendan @jaym 

Don't worry the team will still make money on a $4 hot dog instead of $8

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent And calling Big East/Big 12 pass rushes as "collegiate" is insulting to actual collegiate-level pass rushes. 

a57se
a57se

@gbrownn 

Pff says they base their grades on the QB's performance in each situation...you seem to be saying they don't.

Bent
Bent moderator

@levi @Bent Yeah but that's a good thing so I can't mention that and still maintain a sufficiently British level of self-deprecation.

Brendan
Brendan

@jaym I was talking about jerseys, etc. That also would need to be approved by the NFL since they share in those concessions. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @Bent 

So you are saying his level of competition wasn't that good?

gbrownn
gbrownn

@a57se @Bent Yeah that was my point. Hill/Holmes were both pretty poorly rated in PFF terms and those were Genos top 2 options at some points during the year. All the guys we've brought in this offseason are capable of "winning quick". Amaro should help out there in the middle as well. I think we see should see a spike in these grades this year, the sole reason being improved players on the outside.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @gbrownn They do, so they'd account for Geno's bad throws however what gb is saying makes sense too because with more open receivers to throw to he'd have more positive plays to offset those negatively graded mistakes.

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

@Bent @levi "Hanging on quiet desperation is the English way" - hmm, sounds a bit like being a jets fan.

Though we're less quiet here.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Brendan @Bent He's probably just saying it's a big step up ... strengthening your point about this being the case for most rookies.