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132 comments
Pat d
Pat d

Most likely Lebron signs a one year deal.

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

Bosh goes to Houston, that minute they're better than Miami with LeBron.

tsjc68
tsjc68

"I've said all along I think LeBron should go back to Cleveland," said Reggie Miller during a radio interview on AM 570 in Los Angeles. "It would be a great story. I don't think he should have left in the first place. I think it would be great for the city of Cleveland and I hope he does it..


"The rosters are comparable," said Miller. "But I don't think it has anything to do with the roster. I think it is more to do with LeBron realizing 'Hey, I didn't handle the situation correctly when I left the first time.' LeBron is a great player and a great man, and he realizes no matter how many championships he wins in Miami, it won't be the same as Cleveland."


"I've been saying it for the last year," said Miller. "I'd be very disappointed if he doesn't go back."


-July 9th, 2014


That's an interesting take there, Reggie.


[Ed. note: I have changed a key detail in the above quote, for pointed purposes.]


Brendan
Brendan

Serious question (non-football related): 


Now that Tanaka is shelved, do the Mets have a better team than the Yankees? 

jaygo
jaygo

@tsjc68


Cleveland makes a lot of sense for him.  Less bright lights, less expectations, have more time to count his money.

harold
harold

@tsjc68

I think the Cavs clearly have the better long term outlook.  For next year they are comparable but long term, it's the Cavs in a landslide.

I agree he should go back to Cleveland and I hope he does!

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Hanknaples

For the record, Hank, your comment was stuck in moderation because it included this guy's name:


http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=204766110&


I know this because every time I typed his name, my comments got stuck in moderation too.


Unlike you, though, I didn't stupidly blame Bent in a conspiratorial plot of insanity.  I just waited patiently, and Bent (or Andrew Vazzano) sorted it out.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples I can't put posts on moderation.  You know this.


However, I can take posts on moderation and approve them, which I've done with your comment.


YOU'RE WELCOME!

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Oh hey, Hank is acting like Bent flags posts before they're posted again. At least that's not an old and tired shtick. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo Good read, I like reading things from the opposing team's perspective. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo "This game is, quite possibly, the second most dominated the Saints were throughout the entire 2013 season, second only to the first matchup against Seattle.  The 26-20 score doesn't adequately indicate the manhandling nature of the physical style that the Jets employed."



FULLY BONED!

jsadolph
jsadolph

@jaygo @tsjc68 

I think this would be a no-brainer if Gilbert would have kept his mouth shut.



"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."



tsjc68
tsjc68

@jaygo @tsjc68

Plus, the Cleveland beaches are spectacular, the weather is phenomenal all-year-long, and the nightlife is just top-shelf.

Bent
Bent moderator

@bob @tsjc68 What about the conspiracy theory that the Cavs had planned for James to originally leave for Miami all along and that they would retool in his absence?

tsjc68
tsjc68

@harold

The key detail I changed?


That wasn't actually Reggie Miller, Lifelong Pacer who said that... it was Charles Barkley.


Yes, Charles "I'm going to pout my way out of Philadelphia and force a trade to Phoenix" Barkley, and Charles "Phoenix is no longer good enough, send me to Houston" Barkley.  


Charles Barkley just chastised LeBron James for not "dancing with the one that brought ya".  That just happened.


http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2014/07/lebron_james_to_cleveland_charles_barkley_says_it_should_happen.html

jsadolph
jsadolph

@Dr. Jonathan Reefer @jaygo 

The best part of the comments was the nickname for Ivory.....Tusk.  Why havent I heard of that.  It might niot be the best nickname out there, but it is at least original.

Brendan
Brendan

@Dr. Jonathan Reefer I say yes. 


The Mets already have a much better run differential and are currently like 5 games worse than the Yankees in record. 

harold
harold

@tsjc68

That is what private jets are for.

harold
harold

@tsjc68

Charles definitely has to be careful in this situation.

However I still agree that Lebron should not have left.  But now he has no excuse not to go back with the young roster they put together so far.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@jsadolph

Bent and I were calling him that all year long last year.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent To be honest, the Mets do seem to be turning a corner.


Wheeler is pretty inconsistent, but still promising and Gee and deGrom are much better than you'd expect, Niese is a solid hand and DiceK is a nice option for a 5th starter.


With Harvey returning next year, that's the makings of a potentially really good rotation even if they trade Colon.


d'Arnaud and Tejada haven't been that bad offensively recently, which probably won't last but at least these last few wins show what a difference consistent competent play from those two spots would make.


They could easily be 5-10 games better next year, which puts them right in the mix for a playoff spot.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Bent I'm not actually a decepticon, you know that right?

Dr. Jonathan Reefer
Dr. Jonathan Reefer

@Brendan @Dr. Jonathan Reefer 

Yeah, until they lose 6 out of 7 and the yankees get hot.

The mets will also stay put with this team of .250 hitters while the yankees make moves.


been there, seen that.


The mets are as bad of an org. as the press makes the Jets out to be.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples @Bent @bob @tsjc68 No, but the conspiracy suggests Gilbert was in on the plan and knew that (a) they were going nowhere with him and that roster and (b) it would supposedly make a great redemption story if he returned home to lead a retooled roster to some titles.


You can even add a layer to the conspiracy by saying that the NBA fixed the lottery all those times Cleveland won it, in an effort to set up this very situation for their golden boy.


I'm not saying the conspiracy theory is correct, I actually think it's a bit stupid, just sharing what the conspiracy theorists are saying.

Dr. Jonathan Reefer
Dr. Jonathan Reefer

@Bent @Brendan 

they have a bright future, but this year is pretty much done.
Although anything can happen.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent Only a decepticon would pick the Yankees. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Dr. Jonathan Reefer The Mets had a much better run differential even when they had a stretch where they lost 5/6, it's not a recent thing. 


You're not answering my question, either. Right now who is better? Not when the Yankees make moves that you assume they'll make (they don't exactly have a ton of attractive options to trade at the moment, from what I've read). 

Brendan
Brendan

@Dr. Jonathan Reefer For the record, I don't think they're good. I just think the Yankees are also not-good and without Tanaka they're straight up bad. 

Dr. Jonathan Reefer
Dr. Jonathan Reefer

@Brendan @Dr. Jonathan Reefer 

I still think the mets stink even after a 4 game winning streak. Why? Terry Collins and PPPA ( their stupid walks are better then hits crap)

7 games back and 7 games under .500 with a +6 run differential, means the managing stinks.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Disagreeing with someone =/= bashing or insulting someone, Hank. 



Bent
Bent moderator

@Hanknaples It's not MY theory.


And I already said it's stupid - why do you always argue even when you're agreeing?

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples But he's stupid enough to post an angry, emotional catty letter ripping LeBron, written in Comic Sans and posted on his actual team's website, so how smart can he be? 

Dr. Jonathan Reefer
Dr. Jonathan Reefer

@Brendan @Dr. Jonathan Reefer 

I'm really just a huge tejada hater(bradysucks style) and really think Flores needs to be giving a real shot. I think that kids bat can be special if he plays every day. He is absolutely tearing it up in the minors, and if the Phillies can trade Jim freaking Thome, to give a young, unproven Ryan Howard the every day job. The mets can bench the worst SS in all of baseball to give  Flores a shot. ( who has better minor league numbers 3 years younger then howard)



Brendan
Brendan

@Dr. Jonathan Reefer "7 games back and 7 games under .500 with a +6 run differential, means the managing stinks."


I think it means the bullpen stinks more than anything. I don't know if it's still the case, but at one point recently they had the most blown leads in the league. 

Dr. Jonathan Reefer
Dr. Jonathan Reefer

@Brendan @Dr. Jonathan Reefer 

they also lost the most 1 run games too. Which again comes down the management. With a team that has lack power (until about 2 weeks ago, when TDA got brought back up) We only did 2 hit and runs.

I'm as die hard Mets as I am Jets..but i gotta face it, the mets have no idea what they are doing. 7 outfielders (yes i'm counting Soup, he is best in LF), the mismanagement of their best young stud hitting prospect. etc etc.


The bullpen has been lights out since they cut the old under performers and gave Familia and Mejia a shot, now its one of the best in baseball.


They also stink on D, Tejada, Murph, Duda, TDA, all can't field. 


The baserunning blunders are also horrible. 


We forgot how this team looked like a little league team for the entire year up until this 4 game winning streak. I have a feeling they will go back to the norm.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples No. 


Fair Disagreement:


"I think Damon Harrison is the best DL on the team!" 

"I disagree, I think it's Wilkerson." 


Trolling:


"Revis was only as good as he was because of Damon Harrison" (which was stated by your son). 


or


For another example, your entire rant about John Conner in this thread. 

Dr. Jonathan Reefer
Dr. Jonathan Reefer

@Brendan @Dr. Jonathan Reefer 

Not like Tejada is Simmons or anything.
Dude has even less range.
 Plus Flores hasn't played SS in 3 years until this year, of course Tejada is more fluid atm, he played it everyday for the last 5 years.

Brendan
Brendan

@Dr. Jonathan Reefer "(until about 2 weeks ago, when TDA got brought back up)"


This made me actually laugh. When your catcher, who was sent to the minors because he was swinging like his bat had a hole in it, comes back up and hits 3 HR's (doubling his output up until that point), that's considered a power surge. Sigh. At least Granderson looks like he'll get close to 30. 


And I wouldn't say the bullpen has been lights out, but it's certainly been less awful. They have their crappy moments, but for the most part once they promoted the young arms they've been a lot better. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Dr. Jonathan Reefer  Less range...than Flores? Haha no he doesn't, but I agree Tejada isn't a good defensive SS, the guy bobbles more balls than Stephen Hill (oh!). 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @Dr. Jonathan Reefer Wally Backman seems to be able to turn our struggling players into competent ones...maybe they should bring him up and get him to work with the main roster?

Dr. Jonathan Reefer
Dr. Jonathan Reefer

@Brendan @Dr. Jonathan Reefer 

Tejada is worthless, besides hitting singles and taking a walk, that take 3 hits to drive him home because he is so slow.

Did hit that game winner, but i called that. Dude was throwing meatballs up there.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent I've been on the Wally Train for years. 



"Let's go get a beer, Doc" still makes me laugh every time.