Daily Links: Vick on Jets?

  • Mike Vick was initially ‘angry’ about going to Eagles, but ended up cherishing their fans [The Star-Ledger]
  • How Jets will replace Jacoby Ford’s role [New York Post]
  • Willie Colon on Dimitri Patterson absence: If player bails on Jets, ‘maybe they just need to be left behind’ [The Star-Ledger]
  • New York Jets’ projected roster [ESPN NY]
  • 10 who need to step up [CBS]
  • Saunders back after seizure, crash [New York Post]



76 comments
a57se
a57se

So what would be the media reaction if the O'line challenged Giants were to bring in Richie Incognito?

Eva Nieto- Loiacono
Eva Nieto- Loiacono

amazing how sanchise is tradeable now that he'son another team....we are labled asuntrustworthy..sad

bklyndude
bklyndude

With Kenrick Ellis being a FA after the season,  and TJ Barnes being on the bubble,  I would think Ellis could get us something in the trade market if we wanted to keep TJ Barnes.

bob
bob

So we get to Saunders Fri night . Good

Dave Hohf
Dave Hohf

Colon may not be one of the best guards ever, but he is an amazing Jet. I love the fire he has and his dedication to this team.

Marvel
Marvel

Schefty says we tried to trade Hill over the sunmer..


Is that public knowledge.. am I late?


Marvel
Marvel

Nice to see Wall's has the support of his teammates... and coach.. when your a CB and your biggest flaw is hands?  not bad..Again we have a decent to good CB situation. Add a vet, get Mill healthy, keep letting AA grow.. watch


Patterson has to go.


levi
levi

So Im reading Patterson is upset about his playing time but that cant be why he missed the game he was supposed to play in. Right? This is just strange.

levi
levi

@Dave Hohf Now if only he could stop with the stupid penalties.

Brendan
Brendan

@levi Everything about this is strange, so I've stopped trying to think logically in regards to whatever the hell it is that Patterson did. 

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@UncleJoesJetFarm Good job Joseph,drop one meaningless tweet and get a dozen meaningless replies. You still got it!

harold
harold

@UncleJoesJetFarm 


You are posting this why?


Because Kellen Moore, Sanchez and Jordan Palmer show anyone can look good in the preseason?

bklyndude
bklyndude

@Brendan @bklyndude

Hey,  it's the old we have something other teams need and we need a decent CB.  I mean that's the purpose of having depth.

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel_ I think so, I don't remember it ever being reported. I know some people suggested the team look into it, with most people responding "who would want to trade for him?" 


The other day I think Bent said 6th round conditional at best, I think I said 7th. It might be one of those "you get nothing for him unless he actually plays for us" deals. But hearing "no takers" isn't surprising. 

Bytor
Bytor

I think he thinks this somehow validates his Sanchez/pieces argument. Hey Joey, Sanchez still stinks.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold Jordan Palmer just got cut by the Bears, btw. 


But he's getting signed by the Billdos because their backup is presently Thad Lewis. 

Brendan
Brendan

@bob For the love of bob, I hope not. 

Brendan
Brendan

@bklyndude I would rather not lose the depth at the team's best position group, and one of the three most important positions/position groups on the team (probably only behind QB  in terms of how much success hinges on their play). 



Marvel
Marvel

@Brendan @Marvel_ 

oh, that's what I figured.


The way it was tweeted felt as if it wasppreviously reported.


Would u cut him if there's no takers?  I think I would.


Bent
Bent moderator

@Bytor Plus most of his completions this summer were to backups.

harold
harold

@Brendan @harold 


Yeah I saw that the other day.  Just don't get why Jets Fans who watched Sanchez for 5 preseasons and 4 regular seasons are now scared Sanchez is the 2nd coming.  He is playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers.  IF he doesn't look good than his career is surely over.


He did what he needed to do to stay in the league.  Nothing more.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Marvel_ IMO it depends who they are keeping instead.  If it's an extra RB or TE than no...if it's TJ Barnes or Rontez Miles maybe... one of the other WRs...probably not

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel_ If he comes out guns blazing in the final game, I might keep him on. But man, he's been uninspiring this preseason. I can live with it if the guy is raw, but he's just not playing hard all the time. I don't think anyone gets a sense of urgency with him. 


Decker/Kerley/Nelson are locks. 


I think Hakim is making the team at WR to play STs/KR and Saunders is the PR. 


So you're looking at 1 spot, most likely. Hill/Gates/Salas/Enunwa. If you can only take one of those, who is it? And if they keep 7, who is the next guy you would keep? 


In this scenario, I'd only keep 6 WR's, hold onto Salas, cut the rest and carry Daryl Richardson or something like that. 

Bytor
Bytor

@Bent @Bytor Against backups backups. The real experiment would be if he got a starting gig. Now THAT would be an epic expendables series. 

Brendan
Brendan

@harold It's just something fans that love the misery feed into in order to act like there is some curse on the franchise. Once crappy players wipe the Jets' stink off of them, they morph into studs overnight. 

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 At this point, I'd probably keep Daryl Richardson over Hill. 

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

I'd keep Salas. If they take 7, Gates. (ducks)

Seriously tho, I don't love him but Geno and the team seem to, and as a 7th WR that's fine.

bob
bob

@Brendan @Marvel_ 

Terrel Davis (TD) 6th round pick Special teams star.

Saalim Hakim (#15) keeps making big plays on special teams at the very least he's looking like a Brad Smith .. Hes a football player. Myself I keep  Hakim..

Marvel
Marvel

@Brendan @Marvel_ 

3rd & 8 in the 4th quarter of a close game...


Who u throwing the rock too?  Hill, Salas or Gates? 


that's the answer to who I'M keeping if just one. If I keep 2....Hill is still odd man out



Bent
Bent moderator

@Bytor @Bent


To be fair, he did play against Steelers starters in his two series in the last game.  But he was still throwing to back-ups.


The Pieces argument is in pieces!

harold
harold

@Brendan @harold 


You what happened when we let McElroy go! Nothing...you are right many fans of the Jets worry about  players who become nothing in this league far more than they should.

bob
bob

@Brendan @BDarc23 

Richarson looks good. Nice fined. We maybe the best team in the nfl with these running backs .Now thats something different maybe thats why some call the Jets the back horse to win the superbowl. I hope there right.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan @BDarc23 Do you think a 4th RB would get any PT though?  I agree Hill is once again a big disappointment.

bob
bob

@DarrolRayFanClub 

I like Salas. Theres another guy . Hes just a good football player. I agree.

Bytor
Bytor

@Marvel_ @Brendan I don't trust Gates's hands. Enunwa is a rookie. This comes down to Hill vs Salas for me. It'll be interesting.

I like Salas, but are we overvaluing him? Maybe Salas goes to the practice squad with Quincy.

Theoretically, I think Hill's skill set compliments our other weapons perfectly. I'm also still fantasizing about Hill becoming beastly so my mind isn't entirely clear on this one.

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel_ If those are the three options late in a game, I hope Geno tucks it and runs. 

harold
harold

@Bent @Bytor 


But he looked bad in the 1st series against the starters.  Plus they were running so well almost any QB in a meaningless game would perform well.


I watched the games this preseason with Sanchez just to see how he looked and saw little to suggest he is new and improved.

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 I just think it's great insurance since your RB's could probably use a breather at some point in the season. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@harold @Bent @Bytor


The consistency he showed was pretty impressive for him, but yes you'd expect him to do better against backups, which is why I'm not going overboard with praise for him.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Brendan @BDarc23 In your scenario above I think it comes down to limited upside with Salas but he seems steady and having a backup running back because CJ is getting older and Ivory will certainly get banged up vs Hill's upside. With the Jets D you might be right that the safe players are the better fit.

Bytor
Bytor

@Bent @harold @Bytor Consistency is the key. There's no question Marky has some physical football gifts. He wouldn't have made it this far without them.

We are blessed/cursed with 5 years of intense study to know the whole package doesn't add up to a good QB. 

Any limited signs of progress is probably dead cat bounce and nothing to get excited about. 

harold
harold

@Bent @harold @Bytor 


Just go look at the QB's who played like him against backups.  Tolzien, Moore Palmer. 


It is not overly impressive for a player with almost 70 total starts playoffs and regular season. Especially when you see how well the Eagles can run it.

Alasdair Barratt
Alasdair Barratt

@BDarc23 @Brendan Enunwa would be PS eligable which might play in to the thinking of who to keep out of those 4.  Hill certainly seems to be on thin ice.

gbrownn
gbrownn

Good point, We were one summer too late. Probably could have got something back for him last year. Damn no takers though, that hurts.