Daily Links: Workouts

  • Mike Tannenbaum could impact Knicks coaching search [NY Post]
  • Tajh Boyd: A Favorite Rookie and Potential New York Jet [The J-E-T Press]
  • Jets hope to find cohesion among young returning players, older newcomers [The Star-Ledger]
  • Dee Milliner should benefit from experiencing full offseason workout program [The Star Ledger]
  • Geno Smith believes he’ll start for the New York Jets [USA Today]
  • Tight End Need? How about Sudfeld? [One Jet at a Time]



133 comments
namvetjet
namvetjet

Good to see everyone getting along today.

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

Aaron Rodgers, Walter Payton, Peyton Manning, Curtis Martin, Calvin Johnson, Geno Smith.


What do all these guys have in common?  They were all rookies.  And they all made huge impacts.


Drops mic.

williamg1
williamg1

@jake100  I wonder how many of those 26,000 votes are used when Rex makes the decision. My guess is less than 1. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  Isn't passive aggressive behavior something that dissipates with experience as well? 

nickballs
nickballs

@jake100  ahhhhh, joeygirl still acting the fool....what a shocker....

jetlife
jetlife

@jake100  Can the older fan base stop posting 16 separate times in the same thread? One long comment will be easier to skip when I see you're the one who posted it.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @DarrolRayFanClub  


Very true about information being at our fingertips today...but it's knowing what to do with that information and how to use it effectively that's decisive.   Always has been, always will be.   

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I still cringe at the thought that the entirety of human knowledge and history is available in a few keystrokes, but the internet is best known for porn and cat memes. 

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@Brendan @jake100 

Anyone under 35 is just a fan, regardless of how many stats and players they can memorize.  Kids these days play ten thousand hours of Madden and all of a sudden they think they could run an offense.  They don't know anything.  I held my service dog, Admiral, in my lap as we watched the Jets, ate popcorn, and he slowly passed away.  Just because you've read football for dummies and won an imaginary Super Bowl while you should've been doing something productive doesn't make you a true fan.  You've got to live and die with this team before you know anything.  But you can't tell you kids anything.  So go ahead, roll your eyes, and go do your twerking or rollerblading, or whatever the trend is today.

juunit
juunit

@a57se @juunit 

I wouldn't really know, I've never applied to NASA. Though a quick check on their site shows that even if they agree to hire you out of school, they require you to do at least one year of work in the Federal civil service before you can actually start at NASA. 

juunit
juunit

@a57se @juunit@williamg1 

Like I said, the degree gets you the interview at NASA. Some jobs do require advanced degrees to even be considered, like doctors.

But I guarantee you if someone built their own rocket booster engine or whatever in the barn in their backyard, NASA would be interested in them, even if they didn't go to college at all. 

juunit
juunit

@williamg1 @juunit@Brendan 

I haven't talked to a single person that hires people who has said they would take someone with five PhD's over actual experience. 

They all say pretty much the same thing: All a college degree is good for is getting you into the interview. After that, it's a useless and expensive piece of paper. 

williamg1
williamg1

@juunit @Brendan In my experience, some of the MBA guys collapse outside of the classroom. You'd be better off hiring someone who knew absolutely nothing, and teach them yourself. The MBA guys seem like they need to be deprogrammed.



Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Well, you're a good father. My parents said they'd pay for one year, and after that it was up to me to either get a loan or get a scholarship. 



....and I'll be paying loans until I'm 35. 

Brendan
Brendan

@williamg1 I would probably continue paying mine, I have a budget set up that gives me a lot of free money while paying a good portion of my loans. 

juunit
juunit

@Brendan @juunit 

If you're really interested in working in the same business but a different end of it then send out some feelers. You might be surprised what you find. Like I said, real world experience >. 

My brother got his Masters, but he just did that all at once with the 5 year program. He moved from Wells Fargo to venture capital because the venture capital guys saw he could function well outside of a classroom. All the other MBAs are still working their asses off for Wells Fargo. 

williamg1
williamg1

@Brendan @harold  Good thing about going back to school is you can defer student loans (if you have them). I literally went to school for 7 years to avoid making payments. lol.

williamg1
williamg1

@a57se @juunit @Brendan @harold  The only thing about an MBA is: it literally makes you worse at business. I truly believe that. Every MBA I've worked with seems to be totally caught up in process. 



Brendan
Brendan

@harold  This is basically my thinking. I can live a good life as I am now, but an MBA could make my good life better. Plus, I'm bored and have a lot of free time right now, I can afford to take a couple classes per semester for a while. 

harold
harold

@junnit

It guarantees a min level of living, imo.  Experience is great but both is better, imo.

Brendan
Brendan

@juunit I do, but that's because I don't want to do this part of the industry forever. If I wanted to just do what I'm doing now for the rest of my life, I would concentrate on certifications and stuff like that. I want to get more into the business aspect of this industry, so an MBA makes me much more attractive. Owners are bougie, suit and tie mother fckers (Bunk voice), so to get my foot in with them an MBA would be kind of a requirement. 

juunit
juunit

@Brendan @harold 

Do you really feel like you need it, now that you're already working? Real world experience > college degree in any situation. Not sure what benefit you'd get, other than being in college again for two more years. 

williamg1
williamg1

@Brendan @harold  Sadly, the advice I would give young people is: if you can get your foot in the door in finance, skip school. 

harold
harold

@Brendan

I have my Real Estate License and have been doing that for 8 years.  As you have probably guessed I don't sleep much...lol

But if you are interested get your license and start to find some investment properties for yourself.  Then get into some commercial Real estate down the road.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  It just sucked because I graduated in '08, got a nice job out of the gate in finance, then got laid off after 3 months as my company went under and then spent the next 8 months competing for entry-level positions with investment bankers from Soloman Brothers, Bear Stearns, etc. Not fun times. Got into this, I'm good at it, but I'd like to get into more real estate development and the owner side of things. 


I went to Fordham and I can definitely get into their MBA program, but also was looking at NYU since they have a good program and my company has an in with them. 


It'll happen, just need to get my act together. 

harold
harold

@57se

I loved International Law...great class!!

harold
harold

@Brendan

You should certainly go for it!  I have another year and half to two years (Part time).  But it will certainly be worth it.

A great piece of advice I have for you.

One Man says "it is too late to get his law degree it would take me 5 years and I am too old." 

the other Man says "How old will you be in 5 years." 

1st Man says "I will be 43 years old."

2nd man says "How old will you be in five years if you get your law degree?"

1st Man says "43 years old."

As you can see it doesn't matter how if it takes a little longer than expected as long as you get it done.

williamg1
williamg1

@a57se @harold  Nothing like mandatory classes that have nothing to do with your major. I'm sure you took humanities. 

bluefinn240
bluefinn240

@a57se @brendan  If only kids had to to old school research. I went to U of Maryland in 1990, it took 30 min to walk to library and when you found the books you needed they were in a different library, another 45 min walk.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  I need to get my MBA. I'm a project manager by trade with a finance degree, it only makes sense to get my MBA. 

harold
harold

@a57se

I am a dual Project Mgmt Major/MBA.  So that class is a good one with all the research you need to do.  Especially when you have been out of school for a while and didn't use the new research techniques and formats required.

harold
harold

@a57se

They actually include internet sourcing as well.  It is a cool class.   I took it just a few years back.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  Oh, they do? This has delayed the complete destruction of my faith in humanity for another day. 

harold
harold

@a57se

Yes they still have the class.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se The entire premise "We posts lists and people love them and agree or hate them and btch about them." 


And gifs. Holy hell do they love gifs. 

Brendan
Brendan

@williamg1 My hate of Buzzfeed is palpable. The fact that people actually reference their lists as being definitive is maddening. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I never went to grad school (yet), so I can't say, but I'd fancy a guess that that class no longer exists with the advent of online directories. 

williamg1
williamg1

@a57se @brendan  I'm still pissed that my grade school teachers told us we must, Must, MUST learn the Dewey Decimal System or else we wouldn't be able to function in life. 

Brendan
Brendan

@williamg1 To a point, nothing. I think entertainment has a lot of value, but the lowest common denominator in our collective intelligence wins out on the internet 99% of the time and that's disheartening. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 My posts in this thread are mostly negating your over-exaggerations and false information. 

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@jake100 @Ceifus Hornswoggle @Brendan  You realize it's a troll/completely sarcastic, right?

maynard
maynard

Age does not bring wisdom. I,m 64. The same people who were stupid when they were in their 20's are even stupider now in their 60,s because they somehow make the ridiculous assumption tha 40 yrs experience as a stupid person somehow makes you wiser. It doesn't,t it just reinforces yor stupitity.

Pete Whalen
Pete Whalen

I think that was included in my comment as the first two factors.

Pete Whalen
Pete Whalen

I'm in the older crowd and I have seen rookies come in and contribute every year for many teams. Many factors involved including the readiness of the player, his ability to pick up scheme, the needs of the team, and team philosophy on rookies. Some teams like playing rookies others are old school and do not want to play them.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 You insinuated that by being young we aren't capable of reaching that same conclusion, which is an incredibly basic and widely-accepted belief. No one arguing with you right now argues that you can't rely on rookies to improve your team across the board, that is the furthest thing from the issue. 


The idea that you can only come to these wise conclusions if you've spent 30+ years watching the sport is insulting. Some of the greatest football minds alive are decades younger than you, it's ridiculous to pretend that youth has anything to do with acquiring knowledge. 


They have these wild things known as history books and film of old games and so on. It's not like we have no access to the past and the only link we have to previous generations of NFL life is the stories our grandpappies tell us over the campfire. 

Ceifus Hornswoggle
Ceifus Hornswoggle

@jake100 @Marcus Armstrong@Brendan 

Oh I can't wait to here this guy's views on the Jews and Blacks.  He sounds like a real piece of work.  Let me guess, the Jews are using the Blacks for muscle which is why you've been out of work for eight years.  Go burn a cross, you animal!

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@jake100 @Marcus Armstrong @Brendan  Just because you didn't say the word doesn't mean it's not your argument. 


The idea that young people only disagree with you because they don't have enough experience to see things with the wisdom you possess is exactly the same as just saying that younger folks are naîve. There is no difference.

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@jake100 @Brendan  No, he's really not. There's not much more insulting than the argument that we're naîve for not agreeing with you.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 I don't drink coffee anymore, actually. Not unless I'm incredibly hungover. 


And "again," experience is great, but only if you have the wisdom to analyze it properly. Experience doesn't equal intelligence, and acting like everyone who doesn't have your life experiences somehow has a flawed point of view is just insulting. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 What about my comment gave you the impression I wasn't? I'm just pointing out how you're being ignorant, 'tis all. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 For someone with so much more life experience than us younger fans, you should know that speaking in generalities is the fastest way to piss people off.