Quote: A little perspective

“As often happens when you get the break, when you get to take a step back and observe and analyze and assess what’s going on, you come back even stronger. I think that’s what will happen with Mark. Hopefully, for him, it’ll happen in New York. Wherever he winds up after that, if that doesn’t work out, Mark is a good football player. I think he’ll be better than ever.”

Pete Carroll on Mark Sanchez

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machoking
machoking

Mark probably would go on to be a really good QB.... our luck.

Pat d
Pat d

Everyone thinks its best for Sanchez and the Jets to move on until he winds up with the Pats

jake100
jake100

Westy tells the Post that  he wont be coming back, that is his final answer.

jake100
jake100

Breaking news!!!!   Bieber turns himself into Toronto police on assault charge. God help me! Now back to our regular scheduled program.

arc34
arc34

I could care less what Carroll thinks...you know, all that integrity he brought to the USC program.

kniff
kniff

There is no way Idzik, who wouldn't even roll his dice on a recovering superstar Darrelle Revis, and an exorbitant salary demand coming off of an injury, will retain Sanchez (with similar circumstances) past the deadline, because then he would OWN it!! 


Idzik will not endorse the buttfumble, nor do I think Woody (or the fans) want him to.


bradysucks
bradysucks

Please trade Sanchez within the AFC East . Is this too much to ask? What would be better than the Jets defense getting to play against Sanchez twice a year? This would be blissful. Throw us a pick 6 Sanchez......You can start for the Bills or Dolphins any day in my book.......Their fans will love you!!!!

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

The fact that Geno's rookie year was better then Marks 4th year with the same crappy cast and a statistically worst D says all that needs to be said.

Until Geno throws away games like Mark did, he is a better QB. Remember mark had a 5 int game his rookie year, when we ran the ball for 300+ yards. Geno would never lose that game.

jaygo
jaygo

So, Tannenbaum was just on the radio saying he would endorse Sanchez going forward, that Mark's only 27 and can learn to avoid his mistakes, and that Tannenbaum's moves depleting depth contributed to Mark's downfall.  Cool, let the rehab of Mark continue to spark a little trading interest.  

kniff
kniff

If we keep Mark it will be a 13.1 million dollar hit against the 2014 cap... you guys know this.


That is two FA stud money no problem...like a Guard and a Linebacker bros....


Losing Sanchez is easier than losing Holmes, or certainly Cro to me.

Brendan
Brendan

@Pat d Who would care if he landed on the Pats? 

bob
bob

@jaygo



Read the article above....... hint hint.

kniff
kniff

@jaygo Brian Costello, Elvis Costello, Abbott and Costello.... who knows, this guys check depends on this kind of conjecture, fact OR fiction....


Fear not my good fellow, cause February is quite close and we will all know soon enough!!

a57se
a57se

@kniff 

I bet that is one thing we all can agree on on this Blog.

jaygo
jaygo

@kniff @jaygo FYI, I think Costello is a total tool.  Worst of the beats IMHO.  That said, the guy who wrote the article is pretty on in his analysis of the candidates understanding it's all conjecture.  I could see Oakland biting.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

He is the definition of grass is always greener. He wants ANY QB not on the jets.

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

Which?

First pats game? Woulda won if gates held on to the ball? Titan? Who were up 20 by half? Bengals? Same thing? Bills? Nope. Ravens? Naw. The dolphins? Nope. (He didn't throw at all those games let alone throw the game away) the panthers? Maybe that pick 6 but hey there is 1 I guess. But I can't say he by himself cost us a single game this year. I doubt we win more then 2 of those losses with another QB.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@buckets@DrJonathanReefer


We should start Marko Smithchez  as the Jets QB. He can commit the buttfumble with 4.5 speed. He cannot read a defense or manage to protect the football, but he can speak very well to the media. He is not very pleasant to fly with but he dresses very fashionably (and this includes women's headwear and jeans). He thinks JayZ is more talented than Led Zeppelin and loves watching Desperate Housewives. He isn't a good QB; but he'll get mucho support from Joeybody and many others on thejetsblog. In summation....he is the most interesting QB in the world!

Pat d
Pat d

Josh McCown would kill Geno in a competition

kniff
kniff

@jaygo Yeah, and lets go get Josh McCown from the Bears... damn, his salary was only $840,000 last year, to compete with Geno...


With some ramped up pass protection via FB, TE, and Guard, the AFC East will be fuc**ed if we cop some WRs in the draft!!!

jaygo
jaygo

Yup.  Oakland seems likeliest for those reasons and that at #5 in the draft they likely can't get a stud QB.  

kniff
kniff

@jaygo @kniff Dude, no doubt I could see Mark WANTING to go there... he's a Cali kid and he AND the Jets must move on... indeed I think its better for all involved!!

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@a57se @johnnyl65 @bradysucks Or if you mean from another team I wanted Foles the last few years. Too late now.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@a57se @johnnyl65 @bradysucks Pennington,Foley

bklyndude
bklyndude

@bradysucks

Who said anything about putting all of the teams eggs in one basket.  I'm saying build up the team first.  If ever there is a great QB available and the team is in a position to make a move,  I'm all for it. 

I'm saying Manziel is not the guy to make a move for, nor is the team in position to give away draft picks.  And Manziel may have a decent career.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Put all your eggs in one basket brooklyndude. Great strategy

bklyndude
bklyndude

@bradysucks 

Unlike you,  I realize there are no absolutes or guarantees. That's why I find it hard to understand trading up for a guy you can't even say is an upgrade over the current QB.   Not to mention we still have glaring needs at WR and TE and some other positions.  

I realize you have fallen hard for this guy,  but how does it make sense for the Jets to go after Manziel after drafting Geno in the second round last year.

bradysucks
bradysucks

I am not saying you trade the farm for a top 5 pick. But if Idzik believes the Jets can upgrade the QB position and a guy like Manziel falls out the top 8 or 9 picks in the draft then yes you consider trading up. Good GM's always try and upgrade the QB position when their QB is inconsistent.

You are looking for a guarantee and there are no guarantees the Jets draft a good player even if they stand pat. You and Joeyboy think in "absolutes" and I'd prefer to see how the draft unfolds and then decide whether or not trading up makes sense. The Jets traded up for Revis which was a good move but also traded up for Keller which was not a good move. I got no problem with a GM moving up if he believes he can improve the QB position

bklyndude
bklyndude

@bradysucks  

I always laugh when people say the Jets can't afford to add a possibly elite QB

"Possibly Elite" QB.

So we should trade up for somebody who might possibly be elite and may or may not be better than Geno Smith.

jake100
jake100

@bklyndude @jake100 

I agree, we have to give what we have a fair shot. No way can a rookie QB be fairly evaluated, let alone under Genos conditions with no offensive weapons and a shaky oline.. 

bklyndude
bklyndude

@jake100 @bklyndude 

Manziel might have a nice career in the NFL,  but I don't think it's a guarantee or worth trading away valuable assets to find out.

jake100
jake100

@bklyndude 

I can't disagree with any of your post. It is ludicrous to judge Geno, a rookie with a horrid offensive supporting cast and and with offense that was in transition with a new OC.  If Geno can lead the team to 8-8 under those conditions, I cant wait to see what he can do with another year of experience and some real weapons. Remember, he was from a non pro style college offense. His last few games, even under the above circumstances, he showed much promise.


Manzeil is small and many analysts say his mechanics will falter at the NFL level, but the search for the shiny thing goes on, lol

bklyndude
bklyndude

@jake100 @bklyndude 

Just about all QB's playing in the NFL fall into the non-elite middle of the road capable category.  Some have hit their ceiling and some are still improving.  Geno has shown enough to continue playing and finding out how much better he can get.  At some point we will know the answer.  It's certainly not after 16 games.

Manziel is no guarantee to be anything other than another QB with potential.  Elite - based on what ?  

Not sure why so much love for him other than great college highlights which also show a certain gunslinger mentality which can be dangerous at the NFL level.

bradysucks
bradysucks

I always laugh when people say the Jets can't afford to add a possibly elite QB because other positions are more important!! Sure they are (sarcasm)

You're right that Manziel probably won't be there at 18. As a dreamer I reserve my right to dream of a world in which the Jets have a top 15 QB. We have a bottom 5 QB and have had one for years....(doesn't mean I don't hope Geno improves)

Reefer is a lot grumpier since he went to medical school...

:)

bklyndude
bklyndude

@bradysucks  

Manziel is a good prospect

But he won't be available when the Jets pick at 18,  and the Jets can't afford to trade up with so many other needs. Might want to stop dreaming of Manziel to the Jets.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@DrJonathanReefer 


Reefer......I always said falling in love with QB's is a mistake! So I do stick to my own guns


I root for Geno.....but I don't give unconditional support before it is earned and I will always embrace competition


Last I checked Drew Brees, Russell Wilson etc were some pretty good small QB's.....Manziel is a good prospect


One more thing......Inhale...now exhale....slower now....and repeat

DrJonathanReefer
DrJonathanReefer

Yeah we know how you feel about any jet QB. But it's not like you have any idea who is good anyways. Last offseason you where all over geno's jock just like you are Johnny football.(how anyone wants a QB the size of a 15 year old is beyond me)

Can't respect the opinion of somebody who can't stick to their own guns.