Quote: McCoy on Vick April 28th, 2014 3:19 pm “He’s going to be the Jets’ starting QB. He’s way better than Geno Smith. Way better. That’s no contest.” -Eagles RB LeSean McCoy on Michael Vick, to Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post Like this:Like Loading... 250 comments   Get Livefyre FAQ Sign in + Follow Post comment Link Newest | Oldest jjstearns 5pts McCoy knows everything Vick brings to the table, but he's witnessed very little of Geno. The guy has limited credibility to make an informed comparison. shady being shady will898 5pts The scouting report on Geno before the draft was that he wasn't ready to start on the NFL right away. But Sanchez got hurt and Geno was thrown into the fire. If Vick beats out Geno, it's ok. Sitting and watching gives you perspective. Look at what happened last year. Vick beats out Foles. Of course Vick gets hurt and the rest is history. We can only hope that is the scenario here. boomer 5pts Oh my ....New Controversy!Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDNInstagram image has been deleted RT @ProFootballTalk Mike Vick may have changed his mind about wearing No. 8 bob 5pts http://fabwags.com/sydney-alex-is-eagles-lesean-mccoys-girlfriend/ idothis2 5pts i wouldnt mind either of these guys starting. I don't know if Vick is as dynamic a runner as he used to be but Geno isn't a slouch. Geno actually appeared to be the smarter runner. i'm not sure vick can improve as a passer this late in his career, but i believe geno can. i'm amazed at the Jets fans that dont acknowledge that Geno was trending up. he was more decisive once his weapons returned.i would be comfortable with either starting. feels good since i havent been able to say that in years. bradysucks 5pts I would bet you that if you took a vote among NFL players who was a better QB Mike Vick or Geno that the answer would be Vick by a landslide.....especially if you polled players who played against BOTH of them,,, Marvel 5pts Tajh Boyd comes to camp and beats out both of them. :-) Bent moderator 5pts @jaygo "Geno had rough times last season, his first. EVERYONE agrees he had no weapons"Not everyone.“The guys we had last year were more than viable options. I think it all came down to me, honestly.” - Geno Smith last week. Bent moderator 5pts @jake100 Some kind of glitch. It went up to 18,000 the other day when in reality there was like 50. williamg1 5pts @jake100 I don't see controversy in competition. If that's controversy, sign me up. Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples I can see the post, Hank. And Bent doesn't run the filter, it's automated. Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples Well, at last there's this. Hazard2012 5pts @bradysucks Wouldn't begin to disagree with your premise, but that can't and shouldn't be the issue. Vick is nothing more than a caretaker; an insurance policy against Geno going bust and the whole season going bust with him. The issue isn't who's better now...but who can be better next year and the year after. Vick isn't that future, and the Jets very much need to determine if Geno can be...especially with a rookie campaign under his belt and surrounded with some weapons on O. If Geno proves he can run this O and minimize the TO's then he'll have a future here. If not the Jets will use Vick until they get their new franchise QB next year via FAcy or the draft. __fense 5pts @bradysucks I would bet that if you took a vote among NFL players who was a better player at any position a starter on any other team and a starter on the Jets it would be the starter on the other team by a landslide. Players don't actually take the time to care about stuff like that for any position but their own, because any time they spend watching football that doesn't matter to their game would be better spent watching tape that is relevant. Because of this, most NFL players just repeat whatever BS they heard on ESPN. Brendan 5pts @bradysucks How man times do we have to have the "NFL players don't really know how good other NFL players really are" conversation? marcus81 5pts @bradysucks if Vick where that good he would have a better resume, he is a flash in the pan, probably better backup than starter to fill for an injured starting QB till the starter got healthy WW85 5pts @bradysucks Easy to say when u have Djax, Mccoy, Riley vs injured Santonio, injured Kerley, injured Nelson. Crappy Hill. C'mon Man! boomer 5pts @bradysucks So if we have a Super Bowl QB on the roster, your words, why in the world would you want to trade multiple draft choices for Johnny Football? idothis2 5pts @bradysucks easy to say when Vick is the more popular veteran Brendan 5pts @Marvel This is what happens when you push the draft ahead two weeks, Roger. This is on you! Ryan Schneer 5pts Well that's why l love Geno. Shows the kind of guy he is. Humble and talks his teammates up. Takes responsibility for poor play. This is why he will suceed WW85 5pts @Hazard2012 If Vick > Geno by 10% or more in camp/preseason, he should start even if he isn't the future. I'm rooting for Geno, but the better QB should play. Steven Windeler 5pts @Brendan @bradysucks What did Braylon say about Sanchez? WW85 5pts @Brendan Or the views of my NFL players are better than the views of your NFL players. Bent moderator 5pts @boomer @bradysucks Never let the draft be this late again, Roger. Look what you've done to bradysucks! bradysucks 5pts @boomer @bradysucks errr....Vick is on a 1 year deal and Geno sucked most last of year.....I think Manziel is going to be good......SHOCK bradysucks 5pts @idothis2 @bradysucks So players only think Vick is good because he's popular.........ridiculous.....They think he's good because he IS good Marvel 5pts @Brendan Hey, at least I didn't trade up for Manziel! dapoktan 5pts @Ryan Schneer Sounds like the SANCHISE... alas... that only goes so far.. Pat d 5pts Sexy Rexy Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples Oh, how sad for you. levi 5pts @Hanknaples haha Ive been very busy but it is nice to look at this and see you two at it. Brendan 5pts @levi I honestly don't know. I'm lost on this one. levi 5pts @Brendan @Hanknaples How y'all doin? Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples This is a worse comment than the lube one. Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples Only you, Hank. Hanknaples 5pts @BrendanThe only thing Homo-erratic in that is Rexy !! Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples A homo-erotic post about our head coach and quasi-starting QB. Hazard2012 5pts @boomer @Hazard2012 @WW85 Hope you're right. Even if Vick wins the starting job the likelihood of him staying healthy all season is zero, so anything is possible. boomer 5pts @Hazard2012 @boomer @WW85 Yes, you're a stupid cable TV commercial.Seriously, I don't think the Jets are down on Geno and I think they are very aware of the rushed Sanchez debacle. Remember, Sanchez had most likely beaten out Geno for the starters job last fall before Sanchez's injury. Geno was the starter by default.Barring something unforeseen which is a pretty dumb thing to say in the NFL I think Geno is going to be the starting QB for the Jets for sometime to come. He may not beat out Vick this fall but he will eventually and he will be here for a while. Hazard2012 5pts @boomer @Hazard2012 @WW85 Not saying Geno's career is over if Vick beats him out, just that once doubts arise in an organization's mind about a player they're hard to erase. When you have doubts to look for alternatives and backups...and when you look for alternatives you usually find them...and the new shiny toy is the one you usually play with. ...I'm beginning to sound like that stupid cable TV commercial...but you get the idea. boomer 5pts @Hazard2012 @boomer @WW85 Yeah I just don't buy that if Vick beats him out this fall Geno's career is over. So he sits for a few games, learns the game behind someone who has some time in both the pro game and MM's offense. Nothing wrong with that.Just because expectations have changed with the fan base and maybe even in the NFL it doesn't mean Geno can't play. The game has only gotten faster and more complex in the last decade but somehow rookie QBs are supposed to be more advanced?Not buying it and I don't think the Jets are either. Hazard2012 5pts @boomer @Hazard2012 @WW85 I'm afraid the more recent trend is the yardstick today. Players, QB's, especially, don't have the time to develop they used to. Geno's in an odd place because he's already played a full season. He won't be allowed rookie mistakes, and the likely addition of weapons will also remove another excuse. Expectations will be higher. Geno showed flashes of being both good and very bad last year. Losing the starting job to Vick will be a sign he's still not ready, and I'm not sure how long a leash Rex will give him when he's himself is under pressure to win. boomer 5pts @Hazard2012 @WW85 Why? Its only in the last couple years that the rookie QBs have ever been considered as full time starters. It used to be QBs, even guys like Vick, saw limited duty and learned the game before having the reigns turned over to them.Geno has shown at times that he has the ability to be a good NFL QB. No reason to hit the eject button if he takes a little time to learn the game. WW85 5pts @Hazard2012 Vick just may be better than Geno today, not in the future. Vick's first couple of years in the NFL were comparable to Geno. I think Geno can be really good. I hope he wins the job. I'd love to see him with a full 16 games & practice with quality WRs week in & out. It's impressive he went 8-8 with the weapons he had to deal with last year. Geno works hard & I believe he is improving. Hazard2012 5pts @WW85 @Hazard2012 Agree, but if Vick's the better QB then the Jets need a new starting QB of the future, don't they? That's what has to be determined this year...maybe even in pre-season. Brendan 5pts @Steven Windeler I believe there was talk about the "idiots calling the shots" or something to that effect? That was before the world-class backpedaling, though. bradysucks 5pts @Bent @boomer @bradysucks Yeah....this is bull... The draft needs to be moved back to April Steven Windeler 5pts @bradysucks Boyziel is not as good as Vick. bradysucks 5pts @boomer @bradysucks we'll see if I'm right about Manziel.......yes we will boomer 5pts @bradysucks I'm pretty sure the Jets are allowed to give him another contract if they want to.And if you want to see real suck go take a look at Vick's first couple years. Without his legs he was a disaster. idothis2 5pts @bradysucks @idothis2i take what players think with a grain of salt. nfl net's top 100 countdown is all u need to reference when considering their objectivity. i do think vick is good tho juunit 5pts @Brendan @Hanknaples I blame Kevin Costner. Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples Of course not, why would the NFL Commissioner have anything to do with the draft. Brendan 5pts @Marvel Fair point, this is way, way more acceptable as far as crazy statements go.