Quote: Rex on Idzik’s coach

“I never felt that I wasn’t John’s coach… There’s nobody in this league that wants to win more than we do.”

-Rex Ryan on coaching for John Idzik

50 comments
jma020
jma020

I'm starting to think we are either going to need to trade up or trade back.  The top 3 WRs (I'm not such a Mike Evans fan but whatever I'll throw him in that class), and Jace Amaro may be off the board by the time we pick.  We should either move up for Sammy Watkins or move back.  

 If we stay put how would you feel about taking two Tight Ends with Jace Amaro or Ebron at 18 and Austin Seferian Jenkins in the 2nd?  I think it would be a solid way to build our offense.

ww85
ww85

What are you guys thinking QBs? I think we need a competent vet to compete with Geno: Henne, Scahub, Cutler, Cousins will be possibilities. Draft one as well in the 3rd round? I've always kind of liked Henne--not saying he;'s great, just that he can be an average QB in the NFL with the right pieces. Strong arm & he is tough, not expensive & can be real competition for Geno. 

jaym
jaym

@DraftCountdown

Texas Tech TE Jace Amaro the latest addition to an ever-growing list of underclassmen declaring for 2014 NFL Draft.

davem
davem

Am I understanding these other stories correctly? Seems to be implying that Rex could've received a longer extension if he'd agreed to let Idzik make changes to Rex's staff? Is that the correct take on this? If so, is this factually based or simply rumored?

bldsgrnNwht
bldsgrnNwht

AFC Defensive Player of the Week:

Dee Milliner

Congrats!!

jaym
jaym

Cimini having a hissy fit

RichCimini

This news conference is a long Jets info-mercial. #Jets

jaym
jaym

YAWNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

I want the Fat Rex press conference

juunit
juunit

@jma020 

Not a fan of taking two TEs with our first two picks. And if we take a TE not named Austin Seferian-Jenkins while he is still available, I will smack a small child. 

__fense
__fense

@ww85 Honestly, I don't like the Veteran QB route. They don't have teams because they aren't the answer. Maybe Henne or Cousins (although I doubt he'll be available), but only because Henne will be cheap enough to be worth the chance that he doesn't end up being useless and Cousins is young enough that he could still end up being a really good QB if given the chance. But again, that's also why the Redskins aren't going to let him go, especially with RG3's health.

a57se
a57se

@ww85 

Cousins looked like garbage so scratch him.

Schaub might be worth a look if the price is right.

Henne is a bum.

Cutler is gonna want big time money and I just don't think that is the direction we would go.

I would take a QB in the draft.

juunit
juunit

@jaym 

Walterfootball had that about 6 weeks ago.

In other draft news, today's first Bowl game is worth a watch. Arizona - BC. Ka'Deem Carey for Arizona. Alex Amidon, Steele Divitto and Kevin Pierre-Louis for BC. Carey might be the first RB drafted while the BC players are all mostly unknown mid to late round pickups who I think qualify as steals. Oh, and Andre Williams might not catch the ball, but he's a mother f***ing animal on the ground.

The VT - UCLA game after is worth a watch too. 

__fense
__fense

@davem Unless I've missed it, there's no facts that support it at all, but it could be that Rapport has a source in the organization that told him this but didn't want to give him a direct quote, anonymous or not. It's also just as possible that it's all BS and Rapport is making stuff up to further his career.

ww85
ww85

@jaym This qualifies as a hissy fit? 

__fense
__fense

@jaym He's upset that the Head Coach and General Manager of the Jets are saying good things about the Jets. Isn't Cimini supposed to be unbiased?

djf1
djf1

@jaym wtf else is it supposed to be?

jaygo
jaygo

@jaym Its not just Cimini.  All the twitter feeds are the same.  They are all frustrated.  These media hacks want controversy, a side show and a circus act and they're not getting it.  They're getting high paid corporate PR, the kind that specifically avoids "headline risk."  Let's see what story is manufactured so they have something to write about tomorrow.

a57se
a57se

@jaym 

Idzik and Rex are doing a great job of not answering any loaded questions.

One of these days the dopey beat reporters may figure out it is the questions they ask that are the problem.....

a57se
a57se

@jaym 

Hey, negative nellie, don't you know everything is coming up roses in Flo Park??

Rex and Idzik and Woody all love each other and everything is going as planned!

ww85
ww85

Have you seen Jenkins play much? I guess the one rap against him is his speed at the NFL level. There's a good chance Ebron will be available at 18.

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

@__fense Getting a Shaub as a backup QB for Smith would be terrific, . No one gets that bad overnight from where he was , he could be a huge help if Geno gets hurt or falters.

ww85
ww85

Cousins will be available but will be expensive in both picks & $.

ww85
ww85

Scahub will be cheap. He's considered "done", but I think he's a competent backup who can at least push Geno.  I don't think Henne is nearly as bad as his reputation so I think he could challenge Geno as well.

jaym
jaym

@juunit 

You should do this more I never know the players to watch in these games.

a57se
a57se

@__fense

Since Ian Rappaport has an excellent reputation, I seriously doubt he is now making stuff up to further his career.

juunit
juunit

@ww85@juunit 

There's also Grimble, Fiedorowicz and Lynch at TE and I really like both Grimble and Fiedorowicz. So it wouldn't be the end of the world if we didn't get one of the "top 3."

ww85
ww85

@juunit It will be interesting. I'm sure the Jet scouts are all over all 3 of these guys along with Amaro. We will probably pick a TE first, unless a stud WR falls to us.

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

@juunit@ww85 Agreed we need a great blocker/receiver TE , we have a receiver TE now in CumbySJ would give good options on play action and help run too,.


juunit
juunit

@ww85 

He's much more than a blocking TE. If there is a Graham/Gronk clone in this draft, it's this guy. While Ebron is more like Keller, better hands than Keller though.

Not saying he is that good, but he's very obviously the #1 TE as far as I'm concerned. 

a57se
a57se

@ww85 

I'd rather have a talented catching WR.

ww85
ww85

But wouldn't you rather have a talented catching TE than a blocking TE, considering how thin we are at WR? 

ww85
ww85

I didn't see Washington or NC play this year so I only go by what I've read. Ebron seems like the real deal as a pass catching TE & he can line up as WR. If he's avail;able, he seems perfect for us(at least based on what I've read).

a57se
a57se

@juunit

Everytime I've seen S-J, he looks really slow........

juunit
juunit

@ww85 

He's larger than Gronk by a couple pounds, so the fact that he doesn't run a 4.4 40 doesn't really worry me. He is actually used to catch screens at Washington, so I think the "slow" stuff is way overblown. I think the big knock on him is the DUI he got this year. 

__fense
__fense

@Bernard Mclaughlin @__fense I like Simms as the long term backup, and I'd be worried that we'd lose him for Shaub. I wouldn't be ranting and raving against it (as long as the price isn't dumb), but I don't think I would persue it if I was the GM.


I've still got this fantasy of us resting our starters at the end of the year after we clinched a playoff spot, and Simms scoring 6 TDs against the Lions so we can trade him away for a big value.

a57se
a57se

@ww85 

I saw them talking about how Cousins stock is way down especially because of his performance against the Giants........that is the latest on Cousins.

__fense
__fense

@ww85 Cousins may turn out to be a good move for a team that trades for him, but I don't think it's worth the risk when we've already got a promising young QB. If we get him it's just as likely that he turns into a Matt Flynn

ww85
ww85

I think we've had this argument extensively A57. It's all over NFLN that the Redskins will be moving Cousins. I agree he stunk week 17, but he will be traded while he has value. The Skins need draft picks more than backup QBs.

a57se
a57se

@ww85 

Where do you get this from? I have seen absolutely nothing saying Cousins WILL BE available or that anyone actually thinks he is worth trading for after his last few games of stinking up the joint.

ww85
ww85

I don't "know" it at all about Scahub. Maybe he will command that cash, but his reputation has taken a massive hit this year so I assume his value has dropped a lot. I actually think Henne & Schaub are comparable in my book--well they are much better than Garrard.

juunit
juunit

@ww85 

I'd be less interested in someone who can challenge Smith and more interested in someone who can just play competently and win games if Smith deserves to be benched. Because let's be honest, Smith is the starter in 2014 barring us drafting someone in the 1st round. 

a57se
a57se

@ww85 

I don't know about Henne's reputation, I just have seen him play enough to know he isn't the answer.

How do you know Schaub will be cheap and what do you define as cheap? Good back-up QB's get paid 4-5 million and Schaub is probably gonna get at least that, I would think.

juunit
juunit

@jaym@juunit 

I can do my best, although I definitely don't know them all.

For UCLA there's Hundley at QB, Sua'Filo at OG, Barr at OLB, Marsh at DE/DT. Myles Jack at LB is awesome, but he's a freshman. None of their receivers are worth much, and Jack is also their best RB. 

For VT there's Fuller at CB. There's actually two Fullers, and the better one, Kendall, is too young for the draft, but Kyle is talented (actually he's injured and won't be playing.) Logan Thomas at QB is worthless, but he's got all the potential of Cam Newton, at least technically. VT's RB is also apparently injured. But they've got a good defense, so it's worth watching their DEs and secondary players. 


For Rice - Miss St. the only guy I know about who is worth watching is Gabe Jackson the OG.


A&M - Duke obviously has Manziel and Evans. Their RB is worth a look too. Not sure of the players names, but Duke has a good secondary, so there are probably some guys worth looking at there.

a57se
a57se

@juunit

i want to see Charles Sims from WVU......

juunit
juunit

@a57se@juunit 

Unfair to say that he can't catch or pass block because BC doesn't ask their RBs to do it. But, yeah. Though honestly, Williams > Ivory.