Read up on all the Jets draft picks

Here are all the Jets draft picks from the 2014 NFL Draft…





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borisjets
borisjets

Brian Costello picked Pryor as Jets 1st rd pick on Joe and Evan, and the next day he picked Jace Amaro as their 2nd rd pick. Not bad!

WHO DID THEY REALLY WANT?


We know who they got... and we know Idzik complained that many players they had targeted were going off the board before their next pick.  So which players did they really want at each spot?



bradysucks
bradysucks

Some of you guys are ridiculous....

For years I had to listen to how Sanchez was a good QB

Then it was stories about how Vlad (who never cracked the starting lineup and held a job) was a good blocker

Now the latest player who guys refuse to face facts on is Stephen Hill

Sanchez is gone

Vlad is gone

Hill is next

Hill is a "dad" and a grown man. He is not a kid. If you have to teach a grown man how to catch and run routes in his 3rd NFL season it is a big problem

Look I hope Hill proves me wrong but seeing is believing and everything I've seen from Hill makes me believe he is not a football player.

jdb4
jdb4

Lest anyone think that McDougle was still a massive reach,  found Gil Brandt's article from before the draft


http://blogs.nfl.com/2014/04/16/dexter-mcdougle-of-maryland-meets-with-oakland-raiders/


Dexter McDougle, CB (5-foot-10 1/4, 196 pounds) — McDougle ran the 40-yard dash three times, doing so in 4.53, 4.47 and 4.51 seconds. He had a 37-inch vertical jump and 10-foot-2 broad jump. He did the short shuttle in 4.18 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.84 seconds. Like at the NFL Scouting Combine, a shoulder injury prevented McDougle from doing the bench press. He looked very good on the positional workout, which was conducted by the defensive backs coach from the Giants. McDougle — who is a probable third-round draft choice — just returned this morning on a red-eye flight following a visit with the Oakland Raiders.

Why did the NY Jets take "tiny" WR J. Saunders at #104 when other small WR talents were available very late?


Tampa WR Herron

New England WR Gallon

San Diego WR Reese

Baltimore WR Campanaro

Arizona WR Powell


Jacksonville WR Copeland - Undrafted FA


Possible Targets in Early 4th Round - Off Board by 104


  • 86 Philly WR J. Huff
  • 90 Indy WR D. Moncrief
  • 91 Arizona WR J. Brown
  • 97 Pittsburgh RB D. Archer

Possible Targets in 3rd Round - Off Board by 80

  • 58 New Orleans CB/FS S. Jean-Baptiste
  • 62 New England QB J. Garoppolo
  • 63 Miami WR J. Landry
  • 65 Houston TE CJ Fiedorowicz
  • 70 San Fran C M. Martin

Possible Targets in 2nd Round - Off Board by #49


  • 38 Tampa TE Sefarian-Jenkins
  • 42 Philly WR J. Matthews 
  • 45 Seattle WR P. Richardson

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se  That's what happens when you only have, what, four picks? 

Joseph Rifino
Joseph Rifino

They supposedly tried to move up but couldn't find a trade partner. I think they should have used that strategy to get a better corner than mcdougle in the 3rd.

Joseph Rifino
Joseph Rifino

Hill appeared to be "getting it" when he got injured. He tried to be tough on the intermediate routes. Think he deserves a chance still to make sure not cutting bait on a viable player

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@bradysucks  


No matter what side of the Hill fence you're on, think it's obvious that he either starts upping his game and production this preseason or he's going to be gone by opening day.   The Jet receiving corps is now both highly competitive and crowded.   Hill either shows he belongs there or one of these new guys will eat his lunch and take his roster spot.   It's not complicated.   

Joseph Rifino
Joseph Rifino

In general I think our later round selections might be better than done of or middle find selections, in terms of value. I can see done of these guys being productive, where as some of the middle picks could be potential busts.

bharper42
bharper42

@a57se  i was going to say something about reilly as well.  wasn't he projected much much higher than 7th.  i hope he's the steal of the draft.  we need better olb play going forward.

williamg1
williamg1

@a57se  Why do you feel he's our best pick? I know nothing about him, but from what I've read about him (limited reading) there's something that I really like about him 

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se  


Mentioned Reilly below as a steal for that late a pick.   His knee is a concern, so too his age, but I can see Rex using him in very versatile roles, and because he's smart, got a nose for the ball and is a good tackler maybe not always as an edge rusher.   Rex might want to try moving him inside.  



pcjs
pcjs

@a57se I liked what little I read about him. Do you have a preferred article where I could get more info?

bklyndude
bklyndude

@jdb4  

He was injured and missed most of the season as well as the combine.   But the scouts didn't forget about him,  maybe the mock experts did.

Joseph Rifino
Joseph Rifino

Also would have taken martavis Bryant over Evans, sane speed, much taller and bigger, and I wouldn't have mined having Sammy watkin's old teammate in the division to duck it to the bills either. Think the Steelers stole one from us 2 picks later.

Hoz
Hoz

 So what you call Evans & Enunwa?

Joseph Rifino
Joseph Rifino

Kiper had Ellington available as the best player on the board too, he has pretty much the same speed, taller, and 30 lbs heavier.

levi
levi

 Why do you not have a name?

harold
harold

He is the best returner out of the group.  Plus he has as much career production or more than all the WR's you named.


So he deserved to be drafted where he was.

williamg1
williamg1

 I'm guessing because they liked that small WR better than the later small WRs

pcjs
pcjs

@Brendan @a57seWhich is another reason our 3 picks in the 2009 draft will go down in ignominy (although to be fair, we got 3 starters out of it).

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

@Joseph Rifino  

Wasn't mcdougle the first corner taken in the 3rd, meaning they had their pick of all the remaining day 2 corners? What would moving up have accomplished?

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I legitimately don't know what this means: 


we could have drafted Lee and Amaro and then draft make google and round 4.

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

@Brendan @mustang66  What would be funny is that the receivers that we wanted and didn't take resulted in busts, and Saunders became a pro bowler, lol, 

Bent
Bent moderator

@Joseph Rifino  


Hill maybe showed signs of getting it earlier on in the year, but he was mired in a slump when he got hurt (two yards in four games).  Having said that, maybe he was hurt earlier and that was what slowed him down over that last month.

jdb4
jdb4

@bklyndude @jdb4

I believe that with the explosion of the internet draft gurus over the past five years that the opinions you find are no longer close to what the teams actually think.  

 Ten years ago the opinions found reflected what teams though because video was hard to come by and writers would call up sources on the teams.  Nowadays people can make their own opinions so they no longer check. 

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@Joseph Rifino  


I liked Bryant, too, and he's got a huge potential, but there's also a big bust factor about him and, to be honest, is maybe a little too much like Stephen Hill for the Jets to want to go there again. 

jsnooka
jsnooka

Lol must admit the guy gets YAC with ease. I just hope Pryor doesn't kill him on practice with all those spin moves he likes to do.

@a57se  The kid can move... and will shake CBs at pro level.  But...

Can he survive hits?

How many packages will niche guys like this be used in?

And other guys have similar athletic abilities in 6-7th round. ex: San Diego drated WR T. Reese (Baylor) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTCloVsqYUA

harold
harold

@Joseph Rifino


Saunders is a much more polished player than Ellington.  Plus a superior returner.  Kiper liking him did not make him go any higher.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@harold  


It's Saunder's return game that decided the issue.  He, Dri Archer and DAT were interchangeable players for this role.   Archer was already gone.  I personally would have taken DAT, but Saunders can get it done, too. 

pcjs
pcjs

@a57se @pcjs@BrendanVery. Maybe I should have used the four picks in 2010 (some even higher quality starters in those last 3 picks!).

Joseph Rifino
Joseph Rifino

My bad, I think we could have got a 2nd pick in the 2nd round following amaro to draft a better corner,such as Jean-baptiste ahead of NO, who has experience playing press coverage and is bigger, and wasnt injured last year.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bent One of the most unexpected and funny lines in any movie, ever. Just had a good laugh, thanks. 



Bent
Bent moderator

@Brendan @a57se  


I speak jive.


"We could have drafted Lee and Amaro and then drafted McDougle in round four".

williamg1
williamg1

@Bent @williamg1 @a57se  Wow, I forgot about Pouha. One minute he was playing at a high level, and the next minute he's gone. Miss the big fella. 

williamg1
williamg1

@a57se  I actually like the idea he's older. I'd imagine that is a big reason why we can expect him to contribute quickly. 

pcjs
pcjs

@a57se @pcjsI really hate this "blank name" -- makes it look like it's me in this instance.

@a57se @pcjs  @a57se @pcjs  Sounds like a back-up OLB... which could be good value in 7th. But there are some interesting guys on the offensive side that have upside potential, and the 7th is not a bad place to take those shots.


Would adding one of these kids to the wide open competition at WR be a reasonable alternative to taking the back-up OLB?

236 Green Bay WR J. Janis


239 Cincy WR J. Wright


240 San Diego WR T. Reese - very interesting kid that may need a year of development and weight-lifting


244 New England WR J. Gallon



pcjs
pcjs

@juunit @pcjs@a57seI'd be happy if every one of our draft picks were with the team in five years because of talent! But I do understand how advanced age correlates with declining skill in the NFL and why this would cause you to fall.

juunit
juunit

@pcjs @a57se 

He fell cause he's old (went on a mission for a couple years) and had an injury. But he can play and he's versatile. It's a very good pick with a 7th rounder. Even if he only plays for us for five years.

pcjs
pcjs

@a57se @pcjsThanks, that was helpful. Seems like an awesome pick for the 7th round with litlle risk and high reward. I'm now rooting for this guy!

bklyndude
bklyndude

@jdb4 @bklyndude  

Yeah,  just looking at the Best Available Players left on Kiper's and other boards seem to confirm that.   

They can get the elite guys slotted at the top,  but they miss a lot of those hidden gems.


harold
harold

@Joseph Rifino


Bryant is not a Plax.  He is not a consistent hands catcher.  Drops too many balls.

Pete 57
Pete 57

Only problem with your logic is you have no idea what other teams thought of Saunders and how highly rated the Jets had him. Come to think of it Idzik is actually the GM of an NFL franchise and while you may be intelligent, alas you are simply some guy on a blog. I think all your criticisms could have merit, but you should also have a reality check on yourself and also admit that you have no clue when it comes down to it.

@Hazard2012 @harold  Broadly speaking... it seems the Jets did not have a good understanding of where players might get targeted.  Idzik suggested that other teams were taking the players they had targeted just before the Jets picks were coming up. 

It feels like they were afraid to trade down and made several "reach picks" in the middle of the draft.  

WR J. Saunders is just the most glaring example of the problem.  Far too many talents were on the board at 104... and they could have traded down if they wanted a Saunders type guy.


Idzik may need to cut some dead wood out of the front office after this draft.  Maybe Terry Bradway can sell used cars in Jersey.


Hazard2012
Hazard2012

 @Hazard2012 @harold  


Think you're right on the money re the Jets getting nervous once Archer was off the board.    They may have been able to wait until 115 to take him, but obviously didn't want to risk it. 


We were discussing this in realtime in the chat room as the pick was coming up, and we agreed the Jets had to be certain of getting one of three guys ideal for this role, and Archer was already gone.   We preferred DAT, obviously Idzik and Rex preferred Saunders, but I can understand why they took him where they did.  He's a game-changer.  

@Hazard2012 @harold  MM loves creating space and getting the ball to playmakers.  And they clearly were hunting for a dynamic playmaker type.  But this was 104 on day 3... they had plenty of time to re-evaluate the board and determine that other fast-twitch playmakers would be available in 5th or later.

This pick smells like they got nervous after Pittsburgh took Archer in late 3rd round.


Time will tell.  But this one doesn't feel good.



Hazard2012
Hazard2012

 @harold  


I'm not sure the Jets were really looking for a 'small WR' per se in Saunders, but rather a dynamic play-maker they could use in various ways and also as their primary returner. 


I would have preferred either DAT or Dri Archer because they're just as dynamic, even more so, and can also come out of the backfield, adding yet another dimension to their game.   Don't think Jalen's taken any carries as a RB.

@harold

Always a tough call between these types of kids... 

Saunders may have been the better risk... but early 4th (104) vs mid-7th (240) is a big delta.  San Diego waited to take their risk-reward kid... and Idzik pulled the trigger way too early.


Also... not clear that Saunders will develop into a better pro talent than Reese.  Reese has a bigger frame and can add muscle, while Saunders played at 157-160 and "bulked up" to 165 for combine -- he may be nearly maxed out

Reese has great acceleration and cuts without slowing down... some analysts compare him to a "very raw" DeSean Jackson type that will need coaching and an OC that knows how to use him.  He may not have the same start-and-stop ability... but he is a clear fast-twitch move receiver that can be used in packages similar to those run for DeSean Jackson.





harold
harold

@a57se


Tevin Reese does not display the toughness and does not return punts or kicks.  So his value as a small WR is very limited.  Highlights are nice but don't tell the story.  You have to watch the game tape.



@harold @Joseph Rifino  Players like this are "niche" playmakers that fit into a few packages. MM might see this kid as the poor man's Tavon Austin for Geno as he adds West Virginia Air Raid wrinkles into his version of the west coast. 


When healthy these little guys can shake anyone. But what happens when a 235 lbs ILB catches up with them on an underneath cross???

Saunders was rated as 5th-6th round talent... early 4th seems like a major reach given talent on the board and plenty of time to prep for initial Day 3 pick.


College production is NOT an indicator per se. Teams evaluate the production on film to see if the player reveals skills that will translate at the next level. Clearly NY scouts had this kid ranked high. But not clear that others did. And it is clear that multiple players with similar athletic profiles were available LATE.


Very poor Risk-Reward move at 104