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Stephen Hill blames New York media for reputation of drops

Former Jet receiver Stephen Hill thinks the New York media had an agenda in perpetuating their storyline that he dropped far too many passes.

“If you really go back and look at it […] there’s guys in other facilities that dropped more than I did,” Hill, now a practice squad member with the Panthers, told the press in Charlotte on Wednesday.

“Honestly, as a receiver you’re going to drop passes. You’re going to catch footballs. So things like that happen,” Hill said. “It’s just that the New York media — and, honestly, it’s just me talking — the New York media did all that.

“They can say what they want to say about me, but I really don’t care. I’m in a new place now.”

Bent, TheJetsBlog.com

I’d say Hill has a point when it comes to his overblown reputation for dropping passes. Statistically, he did cut down on the drops in 2013, halving his drop rate and did reportedly limit the drops to some extent in camp. Did he ever provide convincing evidence he had good hands or look like a natural pass catcher though? Not really.

Besides, he can blame this unfair reputation all he wants, that’s not really the reason he was cut. It was because they gave him plenty of playing time in preseason and he responded with virtually no production whatsoever. Maybe that would have been enough to make last year’s squad, but the Jets have some better alternatives in 2013.

Time will tell if the Jets “gave up on” Hill prematurely and it could be one of those situations where a change of scenery allows him to hit the reset button and realize his athletic potential. The Jets drafted a bunch of pass catchers this year though, so it’s production they need from their veterans, not upside.




206 comments
NorthWest
NorthWest

HA, blaming the media for that fact that you suck..

John Speak
John Speak

Seriously Stephen. Sorry Bent, there is no defending him. He just didn't show NFL skills. Separation, catching with his hands, even staying on the field. Yes staying on the field. Pro's need to take care of their bodies. His injuries weren't devastating. He just doesn't appear to be a professional. The comments he's making now prove it. The best he could do is the practice squad.

I was thrilled when they drafted him and predicted big things for him. But that's why I have a day job.

lindro88
lindro88

Hill never got it. He never seemed remotely upset by his lack of production. Good riddance.

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

Hill doesn't drop a lot of passes, because most of them don't make it to him.

They get picked, or knocked away while he's waiting for them to come to him.


Go get the ball Stephen.


marcus81
marcus81

Hill would be better off just better just thanking the Jets and keeping his mouth shut, he might not get other opportunities if he complains too much, besides since he is a receiver his job is to catch the ball which he didn't do enough of.

BDarc23
BDarc23

ok way off topic so I don't mind if anyone complains but... RG3 or Cam Newton this week for fantasy football?

a57se
a57se

I don't think Hill fits a WCO that requires precision timing routes...one of the problems with constantly changing coaching staffs and schemes, your draft picks become poor fits.

Same thing happened to Vlad and Conner.

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

I wish him well and hopefully he catches on with the Panthers.  

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

I wish Stephen Hill all the best, but for him to think his drops were "overblown by the media" is ridiculous. 

bradysucks
bradysucks

Stephen Hill - best of luck

The Jets have improved at WR. Addition by subtraction. TALK is cheap

BDarc23
BDarc23

and another tough one... CJ, Tate or TY Hilton as flex?...not ppr

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@a57se I'm pretty sure the problem is that they are just not very good. Some players do fall through the cracks but most of the good ones adjust and persevere.

a57se
a57se

@Tequila Joe 

Here is an example for you:

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2013/09/17/eric-deckers-drop-rate-among-worst-in-nfl/21753/


This was written after two games of the 2013 season...Deckers' five drops in those two games are more then Hill had in a season.

This article was premature and given the amount of passes Decker went on to catch, who cares if he dropped 10 balls. Hill didn't have anywhere near his production, obviously, but being a WR in a Peyton Manning offense has to help your numbers either way.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Tequila Joe

They were overblown by the media.  And, paradoxically, they also weren't overblown by the media.


It's both true and false at the same time.  Bizarre, I know.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@bradysucks

Sanchez, Hill, and Vlad are all gone now.


Let's hope you can just enjoy our new team, now that your bloodlust has been satiated.

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 RGIII and ....sht. I don't want to be a homer, but I think CJ has a very good day against the Raiders. I think Tate will see some Jets in '09 type LOS stacking and Hilton will get Talib a lot, which could either be really good or really bad. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@BDarc23 Release all of them and get Derek Carr, MJD, Andre Holmes and Rod Streater.

Bytor
Bytor

@BDarc23 Ok last one. Pats D or Panthers D. Please put aside the stench of possibility of NE's D succeeding.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@BDarc23

Not a big fan of either, but I'd probably hold my nose and take RG3.  Better weapons, easier matchup (Houston should be crappier than Tampa Bay, defensively) and he's not suffering from broken ribs.


And I'd probably take CJ over Hilton (with Tate last), also based on matchups.  CJ over Hilton is part-coin-flip, part homerism.

a57se
a57se

@Tequila Joe @a57se 

You are probably right but some players do better in certain schemes than others...That was the main reason given for Vlad being phased out was that he didn't fit a ZBS as well as Winters would.

bradysucks
bradysucks

If by bloodlust you mean being happy that most of the bozos (football clowns) from the 2012 buttfumble team are off the team then YES -

Me happy :) :)

In it as a fan to win

2014 Jets fun too root for

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Bytor @BDarc23 Like I said in another part of this thread...Tannehill is a turnover machine. Plus add Revis and I think Pats could score on D.  

BDarc23
BDarc23

@tsjc68 @BDarc23 I think I agree with RG3 and CJ but Yahoo has Tate projecting for the best day so it had me second guessing

John Speak
John Speak

You must be Vlad's brother. Winters is hardly a pro bowler, at best he should be a back up. So what does that say about Vlad. Right, if he was any good he should have started. Where is he now? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm actually curious. BTW, I'm a huge Jet fan, and I'm always hopeful that our high draft picks succeed. Including Vlad.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@BDarc23 @tsjc68

I'd imagine they have Tate as having the best day because he's the unquestioned starting RB#1 while CJ and Hilton are considered more secondary targets.


I'd ignore that because Cleveland sucks.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Many older Jets fans like me want to win a SB once before we die. Anybody born between 1969 - 1980 has been rooting for the Jets a long time without winning. Many of us are not as patient as we once were. Some are but not all.

I understand that it takes some players time to improve but some of these guys had little upside and it is hard to root for those players (at least for me)

I'm not in it as a fan for political reasons - I want to root for a winner

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

@tsjc68 @Wilkershakes @bradysucks Nah.  Not offering odds on him.  He's been beaten to a pulp too much.  

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Tequila Joe @tsjc68

"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatically sound English language sentence.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Lol - well you have the patience of a saint

I have no tolerance for buttfumbles, turnovers, drops etc.

Everybody screws up but I like seeing improvement - especially with high draft picks after a few years

My loyalty is to whichever player I feel gives the best chance to win

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

@tsjc68 @Wilkershakes @bradysucks Again, nah.  He actually does produce and over the last two years pretty consistently.  Not that he gets noticed for it.  Quite different from the others on the hit list.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@bradysucks

Well, you have the patience of a saint.


I have been told that before.

BDarc23
BDarc23

@Bent @tsjc68 @Wilkershakes @bradysucks Will it go something like this?

Bradysucks- Coples just isn't a good football player. I like him as a person and he is a good athlete but he sucks at playing football. (Ducks)

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @tsjc68 @Wilkershakes @bradysucks

Oooh, good call.


But Coples, unlike Wilson, will make more positive splash plays and fewer obvious gaffes (and won't finger-wag).


My money is still on Wilson.