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Mike Vick searching for positives in being the Jets backup

Jets QB Mike Vick admitted yesterday that he’s disappointed that he’s no longer one of the NFL’s starting quarterbacks as he prepares for the 2014 season.

“I think, at times, it does hurt deep down that I’m not in that group [of the 32 starting QBs in the NFL],” Vick said Wednesday (NFL Network, June 4).

While there might not be an open competition for the starting quarterback spot in New York, all eyes will be on Geno Smith as he enters training camp as the team’s de facto starter. Indications are that the Jets coaches want Vick to push Smith and that the job is Smith’s to lose more than Vick’s to gain.

“Everything happens for a reason, and maybe it’s time for me to just kind of sit back and kind of appreciate what I’m going through now to make me a better quarterback in the future.”

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Every NFL superstar’s career has the same trajectory and it would seem that Vick is in the midst of reconciling the reality of the situation with his hopes.  We think that part of the reason that Vick took his time at the outset of free agency was that he was unable to find a starting job and so he then picked what he perceived the best fit for him, whatever that might mean.

The Jets were wise to not rush the matter in signing Vick, but now they have him under contract for the next year and if they so desire to let him see the field, he represents a better backup quarterback than the team has had in quite a long time.


Brian Bassett: It all comes down to ball security. (TJB, May 26)




136 comments
UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Cats, I sincerely and respectfully have a favor to ask. please cut down on the use of the word "circus" even if it is in defense of the Jets which it is. Last week it was used a couple of times, and I couldn't get the circus music out of my head all day, like kind of what happens with a song that you hear. Do you know how difficult it is under those conditions to keep a straight face when you are meeting with a client who is a VP, and when he walks in, you hear circus music? lol No joke!

jaygo
jaygo

OBJ making news with imaginary girlfriends and swollen hammies.  Tommy Tightbutt says he could be out for awhile.  Don't fret missing out on this guy,  The writing was on the wall for those not blind to it.  BTW, Eli still limping around after being injured in meaningless last game of the season and two Jints busted for drugs in past month.   Imagine if this were going on with our team.  Circus?

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Did anyone read that article that PFF rated the Jets 23rd in overall talent? What a sham!!!!!!! That article will make the Gangrels fangs come out, lol

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

Morning Gangrels! The forecast from Uncle Joe's Jet Farm is a gem of a day!

borisjets
borisjets

I'm on ambien right now. And it's giving me a positive feeling about the Jets. Let me write down my thoughts, and see if tommorow when the ambien effects go away if I still make any sense.


Jets - possible SuperBowl contenders:


OFFENSE

1. Eric Decker

2. Jace Amaro

3. Chris Johnson steps it up

4. Geno continues improving

5.someone from all the rest of the WRs turns out to be special

6. Ivory don't get injured

7. Kerley plays like kerley

8. Nick Mangold and Brick don't get old

9. Colon comes back fully healed

10. Brian Winters figures it out

11.Stephen Hill finally figures it out turns out to be the real thing


DEFENSE

1. Mo Wilks

2. Boss Hogg

3.Snacks

4.Kenrick Ellis

5.Calvin Pryor turns out to be the real thing

6. David Harris

7. Demario Davis

8. Calvin Pace repeats 2013

9. Antonio Allen steps it up a little

10. Dee Milliner turns into a star

11. Dimitry Patterson doesn't get injured

12. Coples plays to the level he is capable of.

13. Antwan Barnes gets healed

14. Kyle Wilson plays elite slot corner (as he's been doing for years.




Is it crazy to be optimistic that there's a possibility we can go deep in the playoffs this year?

In my ambien induced optimism, I say it's possible!







koala
koala

off topic but fingers crossed for some redemption from the 2011 draft class


bucky brooks just released his 2011 draft review and the Jets have FIVE of the "worst picks" from the other teams currently on our roster (Alex Green, Clyde Gates, Ijalana, Ras-I and Greg Salas) in addition to our own "worst pick" of Scotty McKnight


obviously injuries have played a big part for a couple of guys and clearly a lot of these guys had talent coming out of college


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000356334/article/2011-nfl-draft-grades-49ers-get-a-bears-get-an-f


John Ledo
John Ledo

I would love if the NFL came up with a minor league team that played in the off season..a development league for 1 to 2 year players and free agents.... 8 game seasons 10 minute quarters. It would produce more revenue for the NFL and ItS owners plus give us something to watch. It could be played from March to april

bob
bob

Go Miami Heat!!    Spank da Spurs... IN Da Face...HO HO. In Da Face!! 

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

Man why does the offseason need to be so long, isn't there anything the NFL can do, like make it's own arena football league or something in the summer. Players who aren't assigned to teams and projected 3rd string players can participate, it would be good for fans, coaches and the league. Fans wouldn't have to listen to Cimini, they can watch some football, coaches can scout players and the league can get some revenue over it. All teams can participate but wouldn't have too, it would be voluntary, but if they did, the NFL would increase their cap room as an incentive.

Pat d
Pat d

Tired of this same old story

Mark Phelan
Mark Phelan

Vick is an immense improvement over any of the backup QB'S the Jets have had for years.


Maybe, he is even better than backup.


It is a no lose situation.  If Geno struts his stuff - fine.  If he jitters again - here comes Vick.

SackDance99
SackDance99

Another ridiculous Jets faux issue for the press: is there a "real" competition between Geno and Vick?  Of course there is.  As much promise as Geno has, Vick is still "only" 34 years old (younger than Vinny T. in '98) and was, for a time, the most exciting pro athlete of the post-Jordan era.  He still is the best running QB of all time and there's a pretty big gap between him and whomever is no. 2.

Also, Vick should be a little quieter.  He wasn't projected as a starter in '09 and he's lucky he's even in the NFL after being jailed the two years before '09.  Is it humbling for Vick?  Maybe, but being beaten out last year by Foles wasn't humbling enough?  Maybe all this talking motivates Vick, but more than anything it just feeds those nattering nabobs of negativism in the press who hate anything Jets-related and are dying to proclaim that the circus is back in town.


In the end, whether its a competition or not, the QB1 of the Jets will be decided by play on the field and in practice.  If Geno thinks he's safe, then he should ask Glenn Foley if he thought he was safe after being named Team Captain by Bill Parcells.  When the back up is a vet, with gas left in the tank and some unresolved business left in his career (Vinny desperately wanted to erase the "bust" tag placed on him after the brutal start to his career), the presumptive starter should worry.  And, isn't having a back up who is capable of starting and excelling in the starter role "competition", by definition, no matter what anybody says about it?

a57se
a57se

The Rams will be playing Greg Robinson at LG for the forseeable future........no. 2 pick in the draft for a G?

Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 Only if you cut down on the use of the following words:


1. Cats

2. Gangrels

3. Rangrels

4. My Aching Groan

5. OMABS

6. Stugotz

7. -31.1

8. Pieces

9. Rawer than raw

10. Simpleton college offense.


Deal?  Deal.

kniff
kniff

@jake100 Yogi Berra said it best..."It's deja vu all over again!"

kniff
kniff

@jake100 (Milliner) "he should take this jab from Ryan"


Agreed. :)

kniff
kniff

@borisjets Love it! I won't take any Ambien though... I will however smoke one of those bent up cigarettes that make me feel funny....


Your post will be printed and go on the Kniff family bulletin board as what we're rootin' for!! Thanks Boris!!

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@John Ledo It would be nice if these guys were robots then something like that would be possible...

idothis2
idothis2

@Pablo Bruno i wouldnt mind if the NFL televised/streamed the OTAs and camp on the days they granted the media access. i would rather see for myself what is going on instead of depending on the media

bob
bob

@Pat d 

Dog days of football are here buddy..lol

nagel100
nagel100

@Mark Phelan he could strut his tuff if he actually had any but i must have missed it last year.


Smith is a back-up masquerading as a starter.

BDarc23
BDarc23

If the QB1 was going to be decided just by the play in practice and in games they would be calling it an open competition. Geno can lose the job if he is bad but it doesn't appear that Vick can straight out win it just by playing well. I am definitely in the camp that says it is very unlikely that Geno can out play Vick in practice and games but he will still be the day 1 starter.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se Especially when they needed help at the WR position.  I'm not a fan of drafting WRs, but Watkins was considered the best and if there's a choice between the best OL in the draft and the best WR, unless an LT is desperately needed, the WR is the better choice.  Trading up for Austin was a mistake and the Rams missed again by not taking Watkins, who would only make Austin better. 

a57se
a57se

@bob 

A dumb animal with a beautiful mind?

Does he solve ancient Mathematical riddles?


UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@Bent @jake100 That was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!   You have me in stitches! Kudos Bent!!!!!!!!

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@kniff @jake100 Yeah Kniff, I am a little disappointed in PFF for that article, no way are the Jets that low. I put them at mid pack.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@kniff @jake100 But if you really are hurt or have injury what can one do about it? I can see for lack of effort, but getting hurt is another thing, no?

Brendan
Brendan

@SackDance99 They're doing what the Ravens did with Ogden. Start a year at LG, then next year cut Jake Long and slide Robinson over to LT. 

Pat d
Pat d

Disagree. The OL is usually better pick over a WR.

bob
bob

@jaygo @bob 

Oh cool that was really good jaygo thanks.. Kinda explains why Secretariat just jump out and ran  at the Belmont insted of being laying back..

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

Ha ha.. Oh a57se your funny your like a breath of fresh air buddy.. I like the article thought it was pretty good.. learning about horses there.

kniff
kniff

@jake100 @kniff Oh right on Joey, I think the jab was directed at Dee letting himself go (to some degree) over the off season...
conditioning wise that is...

Bent
Bent moderator

@Pat d Last time they picked number 2, they ended up with Jason Smith.

a57se
a57se

@bob @jaygo 

There were only 4 other horses that tried their luck against Secretariat in the Belmont Bob. 

Secretariat beat them by 31 lengths (record) in record breaking time for the mile and a half (2.24)...........

That horse just put on a show, there was no race that day.

bob
bob

@jake100 @bob 

All we need is our 4th round pics come threw. Asking a lot but if they do.. Jets will be looking good.

Simon Gribben
Simon Gribben

 @a57se @bob @jaygo I met "Big Red" at Belmont before the race and he was cool.  Looked you straight in the eye.  Tweener between animal & human.

bob
bob

@a57se @bob @jaygo 

Ya that was an amazing horse..Amazing race..I think with Secretariat when he won didnt really come as a suprize the way that horse was winning .

With California Chrome this race is gonna be more competitive. he's gonna have to blow the other horses away to be considered in the same legue as Secretariat.

UncleJoesJetFarm
UncleJoesJetFarm

@bob @jake100 Without a doubt, I still wish we would have picked a James Jones type wr, there were a few mid level vets available, then we wouldn't have to bank on a later round rookie pulling the weight, but we go with what we have and hope for the best. As you say, it would be sweet if we catch a couple of gems who can contribute from the getgo. 

a57se
a57se

@bob @a57se

One thing nice about Horse racing is they run the same length race every year and time is time.

It is very easy to compare horses of different generations as long as the timing of the race was accurate.

Chrome ran some good times in the Derby and the Preakness but he would of lost both races to Secretariat AND Sham (the horse that finished second to Secretariat) based on their respective official times.

Secretariat would have beaten Chrome by 7 lengths in the Preakness.........

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

Ya know what I was thinking about that earlier.. I was thinking what we may learn about this horse come race time. What if California Chrome had a horse like Sham pushing him each race would his times be better than what they are now..just wondering ......what if.

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

If I remember correctly he was slower by a second and some 1/10 off than Secretariats time..Thats when I got to thinking about that horse Sham. and if he was there pushing California Chrome.

a57se
a57se

@bob @a57se 

He comes from some good horseflesh......Seattle Slew on his Fathers side and Northern Dancer on his mothers' side.

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

Yep and i readhe,s 3rd generation from Secretariat. this is a different race theres more horses in it. California Chrome I think is gotta get out in front so that the other jockeys dont try and gang up on him. and then hold on to the lead..I guessing maybe the best way for the horse to get it done.

a57se
a57se

@bob @a57se 

No, bob, Secretariat is not in his lineage.......Seattle Slew is. (Slew won the triple Crown in 1977)

Northern Dancer won two of the three triple Crown Races in 1968.

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

That article jaygo posted was excellent insight into the race.

bob
bob

@a57seOk I'll take your word on that cool . I thought I read California Chromes a 3rd crossover in the breeding from Secrteriat but hinestly I dont know what that means also remember the article saying nothern dancer and seatle slew in it also.

I know this Secretariat had 4 white socks.

Chrome I dont know as of yet i'm gonna have to check that out on him.