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Mike Vick searching for positives in being the Jets backup

Jets QB Mike Vick admitted yesterday that he’s disappointed that he’s no longer one of the NFL’s starting quarterbacks as he prepares for the 2014 season.

“I think, at times, it does hurt deep down that I’m not in that group [of the 32 starting QBs in the NFL],” Vick said Wednesday (NFL Network, June 4).

While there might not be an open competition for the starting quarterback spot in New York, all eyes will be on Geno Smith as he enters training camp as the team’s de facto starter. Indications are that the Jets coaches want Vick to push Smith and that the job is Smith’s to lose more than Vick’s to gain.

“Everything happens for a reason, and maybe it’s time for me to just kind of sit back and kind of appreciate what I’m going through now to make me a better quarterback in the future.”

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

Every NFL superstar’s career has the same trajectory and it would seem that Vick is in the midst of reconciling the reality of the situation with his hopes.  We think that part of the reason that Vick took his time at the outset of free agency was that he was unable to find a starting job and so he then picked what he perceived the best fit for him, whatever that might mean.

The Jets were wise to not rush the matter in signing Vick, but now they have him under contract for the next year and if they so desire to let him see the field, he represents a better backup quarterback than the team has had in quite a long time.


Brian Bassett: It all comes down to ball security. (TJB, May 26)




100 comments
jaygo
jaygo

OBJ making news with imaginary girlfriends and swollen hammies.  Tommy Tightbutt says he could be out for awhile.  Don't fret missing out on this guy,  The writing was on the wall for those not blind to it.  BTW, Eli still limping around after being injured in meaningless last game of the season and two Jints busted for drugs in past month.   Imagine if this were going on with our team.  Circus?

borisjets
borisjets

I'm on ambien right now. And it's giving me a positive feeling about the Jets. Let me write down my thoughts, and see if tommorow when the ambien effects go away if I still make any sense.


Jets - possible SuperBowl contenders:


OFFENSE

1. Eric Decker

2. Jace Amaro

3. Chris Johnson steps it up

4. Geno continues improving

5.someone from all the rest of the WRs turns out to be special

6. Ivory don't get injured

7. Kerley plays like kerley

8. Nick Mangold and Brick don't get old

9. Colon comes back fully healed

10. Brian Winters figures it out

11.Stephen Hill finally figures it out turns out to be the real thing


DEFENSE

1. Mo Wilks

2. Boss Hogg

3.Snacks

4.Kenrick Ellis

5.Calvin Pryor turns out to be the real thing

6. David Harris

7. Demario Davis

8. Calvin Pace repeats 2013

9. Antonio Allen steps it up a little

10. Dee Milliner turns into a star

11. Dimitry Patterson doesn't get injured

12. Coples plays to the level he is capable of.

13. Antwan Barnes gets healed

14. Kyle Wilson plays elite slot corner (as he's been doing for years.




Is it crazy to be optimistic that there's a possibility we can go deep in the playoffs this year?

In my ambien induced optimism, I say it's possible!







koala
koala

off topic but fingers crossed for some redemption from the 2011 draft class


bucky brooks just released his 2011 draft review and the Jets have FIVE of the "worst picks" from the other teams currently on our roster (Alex Green, Clyde Gates, Ijalana, Ras-I and Greg Salas) in addition to our own "worst pick" of Scotty McKnight


obviously injuries have played a big part for a couple of guys and clearly a lot of these guys had talent coming out of college


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000356334/article/2011-nfl-draft-grades-49ers-get-a-bears-get-an-f


bob
bob

Go Miami Heat!!    Spank da Spurs... IN Da Face...HO HO. In Da Face!! 

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

Man why does the offseason need to be so long, isn't there anything the NFL can do, like make it's own arena football league or something in the summer. Players who aren't assigned to teams and projected 3rd string players can participate, it would be good for fans, coaches and the league. Fans wouldn't have to listen to Cimini, they can watch some football, coaches can scout players and the league can get some revenue over it. All teams can participate but wouldn't have too, it would be voluntary, but if they did, the NFL would increase their cap room as an incentive.

Pat d
Pat d

Tired of this same old story

Mark Phelan
Mark Phelan

Vick is an immense improvement over any of the backup QB'S the Jets have had for years.


Maybe, he is even better than backup.


It is a no lose situation.  If Geno struts his stuff - fine.  If he jitters again - here comes Vick.

SackDance99
SackDance99

Another ridiculous Jets faux issue for the press: is there a "real" competition between Geno and Vick?  Of course there is.  As much promise as Geno has, Vick is still "only" 34 years old (younger than Vinny T. in '98) and was, for a time, the most exciting pro athlete of the post-Jordan era.  He still is the best running QB of all time and there's a pretty big gap between him and whomever is no. 2.

Also, Vick should be a little quieter.  He wasn't projected as a starter in '09 and he's lucky he's even in the NFL after being jailed the two years before '09.  Is it humbling for Vick?  Maybe, but being beaten out last year by Foles wasn't humbling enough?  Maybe all this talking motivates Vick, but more than anything it just feeds those nattering nabobs of negativism in the press who hate anything Jets-related and are dying to proclaim that the circus is back in town.


In the end, whether its a competition or not, the QB1 of the Jets will be decided by play on the field and in practice.  If Geno thinks he's safe, then he should ask Glenn Foley if he thought he was safe after being named Team Captain by Bill Parcells.  When the back up is a vet, with gas left in the tank and some unresolved business left in his career (Vinny desperately wanted to erase the "bust" tag placed on him after the brutal start to his career), the presumptive starter should worry.  And, isn't having a back up who is capable of starting and excelling in the starter role "competition", by definition, no matter what anybody says about it?

williamg1
williamg1

Michael Vick needs to apologize for saying all the right things. 

Logan
Logan

Vick needs to stop talking at this point. Act like you want it, don't tell me you want it.


Bent
Bent moderator

@jake100 Only if you cut down on the use of the following words:


1. Cats

2. Gangrels

3. Rangrels

4. My Aching Groan

5. OMABS

6. Stugotz

7. -31.1

8. Pieces

9. Rawer than raw

10. Simpleton college offense.


Deal?  Deal.

kniff
kniff

@jake100 Yogi Berra said it best..."It's deja vu all over again!"

kniff
kniff

@jake100 (Milliner) "he should take this jab from Ryan"


Agreed. :)

kniff
kniff

@borisjets Love it! I won't take any Ambien though... I will however smoke one of those bent up cigarettes that make me feel funny....


Your post will be printed and go on the Kniff family bulletin board as what we're rootin' for!! Thanks Boris!!

Tequila Joe
Tequila Joe

@John Ledo It would be nice if these guys were robots then something like that would be possible...

idothis2
idothis2

@Pablo Bruno i wouldnt mind if the NFL televised/streamed the OTAs and camp on the days they granted the media access. i would rather see for myself what is going on instead of depending on the media

bob
bob

@Pat d 

Dog days of football are here buddy..lol

nagel100
nagel100

@Mark Phelan he could strut his tuff if he actually had any but i must have missed it last year.


Smith is a back-up masquerading as a starter.

BDarc23
BDarc23

If the QB1 was going to be decided just by the play in practice and in games they would be calling it an open competition. Geno can lose the job if he is bad but it doesn't appear that Vick can straight out win it just by playing well. I am definitely in the camp that says it is very unlikely that Geno can out play Vick in practice and games but he will still be the day 1 starter.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se Especially when they needed help at the WR position.  I'm not a fan of drafting WRs, but Watkins was considered the best and if there's a choice between the best OL in the draft and the best WR, unless an LT is desperately needed, the WR is the better choice.  Trading up for Austin was a mistake and the Rams missed again by not taking Watkins, who would only make Austin better. 

bobbyj
bobbyj

Vick wants the starting gig, trust me. The Jets are gonna have two very large problems with playing Geno ( other than the fact that Vick will most likely out play him ) the first is that Mike Vick is already the most popular/respected player in that locker room. He is a god to the majority of players on that team. The 2nd & probably bigger problem is that the minute Vick entered that locker room he became the unequivocal leader on the offense. Face facts he's the leader of the offense, & there's no way Geno can hope to challenge that. How does the leader of the offense sit on the sideline? If Vick really wanted to start his career as a back up, think he would come here? Why not say San Fran, win a ring? He's no back up, he's just saying all the right things & when Geno starts staring down receivers & starts tossing INTS, Vick will be starting

Brendan
Brendan

@Logan This is the point where I point out that he has an obligation by league rule to speak to the media, and the only thing that he could do to stop it is what Bart Scott did, and all that turned into was 95% negative articles about the guy. 

Brendan
Brendan

@SackDance99 They're doing what the Ravens did with Ogden. Start a year at LG, then next year cut Jake Long and slide Robinson over to LT. 

Pat d
Pat d

Disagree. The OL is usually better pick over a WR.

bob
bob

@jaygo @bob 

Oh cool that was really good jaygo thanks.. Kinda explains why Secretariat just jump out and ran  at the Belmont insted of being laying back..

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

Ha ha.. Oh a57se your funny your like a breath of fresh air buddy.. I like the article thought it was pretty good.. learning about horses there.

williamg1
williamg1

@a57se @williamg1 I think there's a 10:1 ratio of negative to positive stories. The problem with positive stories: they require a little more legwork. When you see a story about some guy trying to make the team, and they dig into his background, that takes work. Its just easier to repeat what some other reporter wrote on Twitter. A bunch of Jason Blairs. 

bklyndude
bklyndude

@bobbyj 

Why exactly is Vick wanting to play such a bad thing,  even though he is saying all of the right things ?

If Geno continues to play well, Vick will never get a chance to play this season.  But if he falters, the Jets are much better off this season with two guys that can potentially start then they were last season.

I also think Idzik would like the younger player to establish himself because it would be better for the franchise.

bob
bob

@Brendan @Logan 

Thats really good Brendan.. I like it..

Vick sure is taking off a lot of presure off for his team mates with all these interveiws I must say I'm impressed with Michael Vick great attitude and positive interveiws.  Vicks a keader no doubt.

kniff
kniff

@jake100 @kniff Oh right on Joey, I think the jab was directed at Dee letting himself go (to some degree) over the off season...
conditioning wise that is...

Bent
Bent moderator

@Pat d Last time they picked number 2, they ended up with Jason Smith.

bobbyj
bobbyj

Ok I have zero problem w/Vick wanting to start. ( which he does. ) my problem is this disinformation being put forth by the Jets. Vick is repeating the company line..it's Geno's job. What happen to competition, competition, wasn't that the mantra? Here's the real question who decides who the starting QB will be for this upcoming season? Going back to Googs & Vlad. Googs never said " Rex told me to play Vlad" he said " someone up high/ above told me to play Vlad" Even better Rex never came forward & stated that he told Googs to play Vlad. When Sanchez was sent out to win the Snoopy bowl after he got hurt he went nuts on Idzik , NOT REX, why? Doesn't Rex decide who his QB is & where they play? I for one cannot envision Geno outplaying Vick in camp. Gonna be interesting

Brendan
Brendan

@bob It's kind of like when Rex would say outlandish things to make the focus on him and let his players prepare for games while flying under the radar. 

bob
bob

I meant Vick is a leader

bob
bob

@jake100 @bob 

All we need is our 4th round pics come threw. Asking a lot but if they do.. Jets will be looking good.

Simon Gribben
Simon Gribben

 @a57se @bob @jaygo I met "Big Red" at Belmont before the race and he was cool.  Looked you straight in the eye.  Tweener between animal & human.

bob
bob

@a57se @bob @jaygo 

Ya that was an amazing horse..Amazing race..I think with Secretariat when he won didnt really come as a suprize the way that horse was winning .

With California Chrome this race is gonna be more competitive. he's gonna have to blow the other horses away to be considered in the same legue as Secretariat.

bob
bob

@Brendan @bob 

Yep.. I impressed with Vick..I never cared to much for him however that all changed now... A lesson in life for me..I look back at my thoughts about Vick and i realize my ignorance.

t__k
t__k

@a57se @bobbyj Bobby I had this same argument a few days ago.  I agree for the most part with what you're saying.  I think Vick will outplay Geno, but Geno still gets the nod Week 1.  I hope I'm wrong.

davem
davem

Dang Bob... Deep and profound thoughts

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

Ya know what I was thinking about that earlier.. I was thinking what we may learn about this horse come race time. What if California Chrome had a horse like Sham pushing him each race would his times be better than what they are now..just wondering ......what if.

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

@t__k @a57se @bobbyj I don't hope your'e wrong about Geno starting week 1, at this point sitting Geno does nothing, he had to sit in his Rookie season but because of how things happened in preseason he was forced to play. Geno got 1 season under his belt, feels comfortable playing at the next level, got to work on his deficiencies over the offseason, now your'e going to sit him? It's like a step back for him and the organization, because this year is important, in order for him to continue to progress and for Idzik to know whether this is the QB of the future or whether they need to address this issue in 2015 where there are 2 possible Franchize type QBs, Marriota and Winston. It makes sense since we've equipt the offense with good talent, to determine where Geno stands, not a few games, the entire season, we need to see how he handles adversity, how he handles success, can he do better as he gains experience and a better supporting cast, lets face it, the Jets aren't winning the Superbowl this year, why not prepare for it, by ensuring we have the most important piece, QB. I would let him take us to the playoffs or tank the season. Because you have 2 possible scenerios, he plays well and he takes us to the post season, you have your guy, he fails and tanks the season, you need another guy, but hey your 2-14, you pick first in the draft, choose between winston and mariota.

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

If I remember correctly he was slower by a second and some 1/10 off than Secretariats time..Thats when I got to thinking about that horse Sham. and if he was there pushing California Chrome.

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

Yep and i readhe,s 3rd generation from Secretariat. this is a different race theres more horses in it. California Chrome I think is gotta get out in front so that the other jockeys dont try and gang up on him. and then hold on to the lead..I guessing maybe the best way for the horse to get it done.

bob
bob

@a57se @bob 

That article jaygo posted was excellent insight into the race.

bob
bob

@a57seOk I'll take your word on that cool . I thought I read California Chromes a 3rd crossover in the breeding from Secrteriat but hinestly I dont know what that means also remember the article saying nothern dancer and seatle slew in it also.

I know this Secretariat had 4 white socks.

Chrome I dont know as of yet i'm gonna have to check that out on him.