Westhoff points out lack of overall talent on special teams

ESPN NY has some insight on the Jets special teams this year from Mike Westhoff. When asked about the punt-block, Westhoff shared some thoughts on the use of three flyers and how that bit the Jets in the end, but he also indicated that the overall talent on special teams has degraded drastically of late.

Westhoff’s biggest beef was the quality of the personnel on special teams. Indeed, Sudfeld is a weak-blocking tight end, hardly ideal in that position on the punt team. He was moved into that role only recently because of a season-ending injury to Konrad Reuland.

“The Jets are limited in personnel,” Westhoff said. “And I’m being kind.”

Brian Bassett, TheJetsBlog.com

There are not going to be a lot of cases when I am going to argue with Mike Westhoff about football and this is certainly not one of those occasions.

Not long ago the Jets had players like Wallace Wright, Joe McKnight, Josh Mauga, James Ihedigbo and the Smiths among many other solid guys in this group. While there are still some standout players like Bellore and Lankster, the overall unit has suffered.

Add in that some of their effective players are on the IR (like Josh Mauga among others) and that other players who were playing well were replaced (like Ricky Sapp) and it starts to demonstrate Westhoff’s point.

This is why articles like this one drive me insane.

No one cares that Oday Aboushi and Will Campbell are keeping a stiff upper lip in the face of the (air quotes) adversity of being inactive all season. Those are two roster spots that are being sucked up to no purpose while for people who pay attention (like Mike Westhoff) it is plain that the Jets need to field better talent (air quotes) competing in that special teams unit.




28 comments
SackDance99
SackDance99

That was part of Westhoff was saying.  He also said that the players in there weren't executing properly and called out Sudfeld, who as I say below, was the primary culprit for the block.  Its also the fact that the guys in there aren't executing properly and that on the players and coaches.

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

Thank you Brian for pointing out the folly of keeping stiff's like Oboushi and Campbell on the active roster as at best they should have been on the practice squad(preferably some one else's! They must really stink if they cant even suite up in place of Winters!

BILLY
BILLY

General Manager's Draft Picks: ......D


Would be an F- if not for Richardson.

NYCPEinGermany
NYCPEinGermany

I agree that there is a lack of talent, much due to injury, but let's say we didn't use the roster spots on the two OL, are we sure that there is adequate talent out there that we could pick up and utilize?

djf1
djf1

playcalling is suspect too.  leaving the punter unprotected was dumb, and I still don't get that onside attempt.

a57se
a57se

We have 7 offensive linemen dress for every game, why isn't one of them at LG on the punt team instead of a poor blocking TE?


harvlis
harvlis

Idzik hasn't shown me that he has a clue.  Hopefully, we go into next season with a new, experienced QB, a revamped WR & DB corp, a solid RG, and a deeper special teams unit.  It is a big mistake, to forget about special teams.   

LIJetsFan
LIJetsFan

I can see keeping Winters on the 53 man roster but playing him over Ducasse has me wondering about Idzig's vision for this season for this team.  Aboushi and Campbell taking up roster space has me wondering further.


Has Idzig sacked this season from the get go?  If so, the fans deserve better, and I for one would be pissed.   



Marvel
Marvel

Don't understand why we never jumped on a guy like Ted Ginn when he became available, always seemed like the type of little move that would go a long way for a team like ours. 

levi
levi

@BILLY You cant judge a draft in the first year. Im sure you have heard this before though.

Bent
Bent

@a57se Because they have to run downfield to make a tackle.  Everyone (including last year's Jets) uses their backup linebackers in that role.  We just don't have enough of them, which is why Harris and Sudfeld have been on that unit.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Marvel We're particularly good at not jumping on Ted Ginn when the opportunity presents itself.

levi
levi

@Marvel Especially since hes killed us a few times before.

a57se
a57se

@Bent@a57seHmmm......fair point! I didn't think about that very well, oh well, there goes a good rant!


djf1
djf1

@Bent I don't get why it's illegal.  t

this isn't basketball.  how often is the ball even low enough to block? (I just want to see more fun plays.)


Bent
Bent

@a57se @Bent @juunit  Drew actually answered that exact question in this week's funbag on deadspin.

The answer is yes, it's illegal in the NFL.  It's a 15 yard penalty.
However, it is legal in college football, although if the ball is deflected out of the endzone, it's a safety!

a57se
a57se

@Bent@juunit 

Is it illegal to jump up and block a FG BY THE GOAL POSTS?

juunit
juunit

@a57se@juunit@Bent 

I agree. The criticisms were misplaced. The dumb bit was attempting the field goal at all, not the guys he put in to block. 

Bent
Bent

@juunit That's a field goal.  Teams always put big guys (OL and DTs with TEs on the edge) on the FG unit.


The punt unit is different.

a57se
a57se

@juunit@Bent 

Yes there was a lot of hand wringing on that one......to be honest, he should not have tried the FG. That was dumb.

I bet Saban spends a scholarship or two on place kickers from now on.....one chance for a national title was derailed and a second was almost derailed by a lousy PK.

juunit
juunit

@Bent 

Wasn't everyone making a huge deal about the Iron Bowl ending because Saban had put a bunch of fat guys out there who then couldn't catch the returner? 

Bent
Bent

I'll assume this was a response to my Belichick coaching tree comment, but really I don't think Saban is a convincing counter because he was unsuccessful in the NFL.  Plenty of Belichick disciples have done well in college (Weis, Ferentz, O'Brien) but not really in the NFL.


Or are you saying that Saban doesn't use linebackers in that role?

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Bent@a57seWhen I saw the punt block on Sunday, it was obvious that Sudfeld screwed up.  There's a simple key that Pop Warner linemen learn: "Man on; inside; outside."  So, if there's a man on you, you block him.  If not, then block to the inside and if there's nobody inside, block to the outside.  Sudfeld had to see that there was a guy in the A gap inside of him.  Yet, inexplicably, he looked outside and the blocker blew by him unblocked.  So, maybe Caleb would be worse, but for gosh sakes, can we at least get a guy in that knows football fundamentals?

Bent
Bent

@a57se To be fair, there probably isn't much of a drop off from Sudfeld to Schlauderaff in terms of special teams prowess.